Springfield Community Meeting - 11/05 @ 7pm

[untarded]

This is SPARtarded.

Careful...you're close to infringing upon my copyright 

[sheclown]

Anyone know if tricking people to sign a petition is illegal? Regardless on whether they intend to use this petition, I think it needs to be addressed. That disappoints me that any neighborhood organization would stoop to this level.

Just curious, what has brought up the 16 or so "illegal" rooming houses? Has there been issues at these homes, are the properties not kept, etc..? I mean, illegal rooming houses doesn't seem to be the biggest problem in our neighborhood, though they may contribute in some instances (not sure, just saying the possibility exists). Also, shouldn't SPAR have these urgent meetings to trick people into petitioning the mayor for repairs on brick roads or tax incentives to open businesses here or something?

The "rooming house issue" is just a distraction, planned and orchestrated.

[sheclown]

This is the same "show of force" that was called for 6 months ago.  After a meeting with the councilman and other "powers that be" it seems like there is still some question of what is legal or not.  I find that to be puzzling.

Perhaps, they just don't like what they heard.

[sheclown]

Jason Teal, of the General Counsel's office, tried to tell them what they didn't want to hear this summer and they aimed a sh$t storm on his head.

There were a few snide comments about Gaffney last night.  They don't like what they are hearing.  Do you really think the city officials, Sean Kelly, Kimberly Scott, Shannon Eller and Dr. Gaffney suggested to SPAR to walk around the neighborhood with tape players and video cameras and ask people where they live and the circumstances of their living arrangements (as Trautmann suggested last night? Or as Kharis proudly talked about his deception engaging a local in conversation?)

[PorchCats]

Okay - have to jump in on one topic - the petition. I was the first person to notice (as I was about to sign) that this was other than a sign-in sheet, and when others came in I told several people to read it first before signing. Then it went around the room.

I just had a great conversation with the engaging Ms. Chris Farley, who spoke directly to Louise about the petition today. Turns out it was a left-over from a previous meeting and set out without realizing it still had the petition verbiage (which was NOT apparent unless you read the detailed print. It really DID look like a sign-in sheet, I almost signed it myself but thought I'd read the upper blurb first.)

Chris has the pulse of this neighborhood and does not believe there was a deliberate attempt to deceive. After our conversation, I agree with her - although I was quite incensed last night.

Having said all this, I expect to be called a Sparbarian, or accused of being Louise signed in under a new name (since it's only my second post ever), or otherwise generally skewered. Feel free, at least I was at the meeting.

For what it's worth, it was a great pleasure to see many of you I already know and meet and shake the hand of many of you for the first time (Gloria and Joe among the group.)  The meeting definitely had an agenda but it was completely open to any and all questions. If you didn't raise your hand, your thoughts weren't going to be heard.

At least we know the focus of SPAR's efforts to clamp down on illegal and additional boarding/rooming houses.  Joe, I did feel the code was explained sufficiently for this meeting, except the part about more than five unrelated individuals living in a single family home.

Gloria, are you still looking for that piece of cake?

[chris farley]

When is the SHARP meeting I would wish to attend

[ChriswUfGator]

This is the same "show of force" that was called for 6 months ago.  After a meeting with the councilman and other "powers that be" it seems like there is still some question of what is legal or not.  I find that to be puzzling.

There's no real question about what's legal. COJ's code and zoning departments and the GC's office have said repeatedly what they consider to be legal about rooming houses and apartments. The real problem is the child-like behavior of certain people who just didn't like the outcome.

It's literally: "I'm moving in here, and now everybody else I don't like has to move out".

[zoo]

Having said all this, I expect to be called a Sparbarian, or accused of being Louise signed in under a new name (since it's only my second post ever), or otherwise generally skewered. Feel free, at least I was at the meeting.

Yep, prepare to be skewered. In SPR, you are not allowed to give benefit of the doubt to SPAR. If SPAR makes an error, it is part of some orchestrated conspiracy plot.

[ChriswUfGator]

Turns out it was a left-over from a previous meeting and set out without realizing it still had the petition verbiage (which was NOT apparent unless you read the detailed print. It really DID look like a sign-in sheet, I almost signed it myself but thought I'd read the upper blurb first.)

Chris has the pulse of this neighborhood and does not believe there was a deliberate attempt to deceive.

If you honestly believe that Louise wouldn't have sent that 'petition' into COJ if people hadn't figured it out, then you may be interested in this wonderful bridge I have for sale...

Oh, and BTW, Bernie Madoff just called and needs your help smuggling his hidden billions out of Nigeria.

[Dan B]

Having said all this, I expect to be called a Sparbarian, or accused of being Louise signed in under a new name (since it's only my second post ever), or otherwise generally skewered. Feel free, at least I was at the meeting.

Yep, prepare to be skewered. In SPR, you are not allowed to give benefit of the doubt to SPAR. If SPAR makes an error, it is part of some orchestrated conspiracy plot.

Especially if you only have two posts. I mean, how do we know this supposed "porchcats" person isnt just one of my many alter-egos?

[sheclown]

I met a man last night at the meeting named "Porchcats" -- he wasn't Dan.  I would gladly testify to that.

[Dan B]

Not true.

I changed it once.

Downtownparks still exists, but the login has been broken on purpose. I felt the need to retire it, and then I took a month+ long hiatus.

When I came back, I registered my last name, but then tought better of it, and asked Lunican to change it instead to my first name.

Nothing nefarious there.

[sheclown]

this isn't going to end in a mud wrestling challenge, is it?

[Dan B]

Well then, its too bad you wont appreciate it as we continue to run it into the ground.

[chris farley]

When is the SHARP meeting I would wish to attend