New Convenience Store

fsu813 · November 04, 2009, 04:17:37 PM

Zoo asked:

"Just wondering why no one has been able to come up with the locations or details on the "other car washes" that Mr. Jones claimed to own and operate? Will that information become available before Nov 12 hearing?"

- per Matt McVay, they are no longer in business. He knows the old locations of both though.

thelakelander · November 04, 2009, 04:22:42 PM

Quote from: zoo on November 04, 2009, 04:00:01 PM
QuoteBtw, the same could go for Uptown Market. If things don't work out, what stops them from changing their commercial model to something that's already allowed by the zoning, that will lead to more profitability? Why wasn't the same concern addressed with them?

Why wasn't the same concern addressed with Gallery Restaurant Group? That's is an easy one, Lake...

Gallery Restaurant Group is a proven commodity.

Coca Cola has been successful for over a century but they bombed on Clear Coke. Gallery has proven that they know how to run a burrito restaurant, but Uptown Market is a different product in a different environment (I'm not against them, just using them as an example).

Anyway, you can subsitute exhibit A with B,C,D and more. How about Three Layers, 9th & Main (the early years), Fusion or City kidz? The examples are interchangable but the underlying zoning realities (that are really at the heart of this discussion) remain the same.

QuoteJust wondering why no one has been able to come up with the locations or details on the "other car washes" that Mr. Jones claimed to own and operate? Will that information become available before Nov 12 hearing?

I figured this info would come from those he presented in front of, assuming that this would be a natural question to pop up if his presentation included him claiming he had other properties. Anyone have any info on this?

fsu813 · November 04, 2009, 04:27:52 PM

I just posted it above.

Both of them have closed, Matt McVay has the old locations.

jason_contentdg · November 04, 2009, 04:38:09 PM

The old location on Lem Turner has closed and is no longer there. The other one was near Beach and St Johns Bluff, he sold it and it is still in operation.

thelakelander · November 04, 2009, 04:41:14 PM

The petition is only for residents of Springfield? How about property owners?

untarded · November 04, 2009, 05:18:27 PM

Quote from: jason_contentdg on November 04, 2009, 04:38:09 PM
The old location on Lem Turner has closed and is no longer there. The other one was near Beach and St Johns Bluff, he sold it and it is still in operation.

http://diamondcarwash.net/index.htm

I believe this is the one on Beach. Can anyone confirm? I used it a few times several years ago (I think around early '05). Not sure who owned it at the time. The 'convenience store' in it only sold car related merchandise such as waxes, air fresheners, etc. Might have had sodas and snacks for customers while they waited, I can't remember.

I remember the interior being clean and inviting (not in a Three Layers kind of way but worlds better than the Shell, BP experience).

FinnegansWake · November 04, 2009, 07:19:58 PM

The "Dancy Terrace Show" of 2009.
Competing petitions and fear.

I've got parking spots for the show. $20/car...$40/SmartCar (just because)...free to bikes and motorcycles.

I think a very very quiet, well designed, LEED certified, historically accurate, topless car wash would be the fix. Boobs and beefcake always bring the peeps together. yes?

jason_contentdg · November 05, 2009, 04:33:13 PM

If you are for the approval of the car wash it is imperative to show your support at the council meeting on the 12th at 1pm.

Based on the information Silas shared with us today, and what he has submitted so far, the planning department is passing on a report to council to deny the exception. It may be possible to post the actual report soon.

We are working with Silas to show renderings of what and how the car wash will actually work. I think it will help explain what Silas is trying to accomplish with this piece of property. He is spending the majority of his money on site improvements (he has already paid for and installed the automated equipment), and will paint and fix up the building to a point that he can afford.

We will post some images as they are finished in the coming days.

Thanks...

fsu813 · November 05, 2009, 04:36:06 PM

this would be a good topic to bring up this evening at the community meeting...

jason_contentdg · November 05, 2009, 04:41:21 PM

Unfortunately Greg and I have to be at the Emerging Design Professional's Urban Facelift Project competition kickoff, but hopefully the topic can be brought up for discussion at the meeting.

I wish we had images to share for the meeting, but we we've just begun the process.

fsu813 · November 05, 2009, 04:42:19 PM

isn't that at Walkers?

jason_contentdg · November 05, 2009, 04:43:43 PM

It will be at the Sinclair.

fsu813 · November 06, 2009, 11:37:52 AM

If it were on Main Street noone would have a problem with it.

cindi · November 06, 2009, 11:54:04 AM

Quote from: fsu813 on November 06, 2009, 11:37:52 AM
If it were on Main Street noone would have a problem with it.

really?? and under whose authority do you have to speak for all of springfield? last time i checked, i do live in springfield and no one has asked my permission to speak for me.

jason_contentdg · November 06, 2009, 12:00:05 PM

Quote from: fsu813 on November 06, 2009, 11:37:52 AM
If it were on Main Street noone would have a problem with it.

Up and down main street, commercial goes back to at least the alleyways on each side. The curb cuts leading to the mixed use third and main development are the same distance off of 3rd street as these would be on 4th street.