Is Springfield Ready for a Car Wash?

[ChriswUfGator]

The way I interpreted what Jason originally wrote is that he was not complying with the required renovations. It had nothing to do with color.  


So is he complying with the approved design?

Jason was getting flak from the LOLAs, which prompted him to pull a CYA.

But I find the really funny thing is that even if the carwash were in fact going to be burgundy, which obviously isn't the case, then it still would have complied with the approved design. There is nothing in the property's commercial zoning, the Springfield Overlay, or in the COA that prohibited him from painting the building a particular color.

Certain people jumped a little too quickly at the chance to say "I told you so" and no doubt piled onto Content, and Jason disappointingly decided to play along with an appeasement strategy. But it was a non-issue to begin with, there is no list of prohibited colors in his COA, or in the overlay. He can change a paint color if he wants without changing the approved design.

There are so many things wrong with the paragraph, but I'll play along, especially since you have no idea what I or Content Design has done to try and help Silas get this thing open and the whole paint issue does not tie into HPC and yes, of course you wont find a list of approved colors.  If Silas was trying to open a pizza place or other business that did not need a full design to help him get approval by exception, the the color would not matter at all...

Now if you think otherwise and Silas can paint the building whatever color and do what he wants, I think you need to take your beef to Planning....or if you'd like for me to try and schedule a meeting with you, Silas, and planning staff so you can tell them they are wrong and you can tell Silas what he does or does not need to do, just let me know.

Again, he agreed to the conditions, they aren't that difficult to meet...its up to Silas and he knows this.

With all due respect, and I'm being really nice here only because I like your work and I think you mean well, you lost all claim to pull the "you don't know anything about what I've done..." stunt when you posted it all online, all of which I've read, along with the rest of this forum.

I disagree that choosing a paint color would disqualify the entire project from meeting the terms of the COA. The area in question has no inherent zoning restrictions on color choices, the recently enacted overlay has no restriction on color choices, and the COA itself had no restriction on color choices. If your argument is that a paint color choice by itself would be sufficient to find noncompliance, then you're wrong.

Before you pass judgment, I have a little photo expose I'm about to post, which highlights not only the disastrous dumps owned and operated by the very person who appealed to stop this same carwash (and lost), but also the fact that many properties in the immediate vicinity are in fact painted the exact same color, or are much worse eyesores. Wait and see. I'm in the middle of a dinner party, but I promise I'll get to it soon.

I have no beef with you, I think your work was amazing, I am impressed that you did it pro bono, and my only issue in this situation is that certain people have nothing better to do than pick at someone's paint color choice as an excuse to say "I told you so...".

Everyone shouldn't forget that what they originally told us would happen was that the carwash would cause rampant crack dealing and prostitution. What we've actually gotten is burgundy paint instead of grey paint, and these same idiots are already saying "I told you so...". Is this a joke? Really?

[danno]

TO clear the record... I didn't really think it was primer.

[fieldafm]

I dont have an opinion on property rights, SPAR, the HPC, or the zoning commission... but I saw that color on a recent bikeride and thought 'Wow, that's ugly'

Have to check out the new color on tomorrow morning's ride.

[iloveionia]

I dont have an opinion on property rights, SPAR, the HPC, or the zoning commission... but I saw that color on a recent bikeride and thought 'Wow, that's ugly'

Have to check out the new color on tomorrow morning's ride.

+1
Thankfully he's following the approved plan now.
Soon the owner will have lots of +1s under his name.
;-)

[sheclown]

If you ask me, the world is too taupe already. 

What's with everything being the color of death?

I like Waafa's boldness.

[konstantconsumer]

If you ask me, the world is too taupe already. 

What's with everything being the color of death?

I like Waafa's boldness.

agreed.  that having been said, i think we've run out of problems to freak out about in springfield if this is a hot button issue.

[Springfielder]

Sorry....but I don't see where the color of the building is or should be an issue. I've seen plenty of houses in the neighborhood that are (IMO) hideous colors, but I've not seen where anyone is worried about them. This guy's been given enough crap, and has jumped through the hoops...let's let him open for business.

[tufsu1]

Sorry....but I don't see where the color of the building is or should be an issue. I've seen plenty of houses in the neighborhood that are (IMO) hideous colors, but I've not seen where anyone is worried about them. This guy's been given enough crap, and has jumped through the hoops...let's let him open for business.

it is simple...if one of the hoops he jumped through required a specific look, then he has to meet it.

[Springfielder]

I don't recall hearing a thing about specific colors that had to be used, and would like to see where it was listed.

[strider]

It is simply a case where the artistic rendering showed a certain color and some complained that the building was being painted a different color. At a guess, the planning department choose, and it was a choice, not a requirement, to tell him it had to be the color shown on the artistic rendering. Just what we all needed, another boring beige or taupe building.  It sometimes seems that given their choice, architects and designers would make the world the colors of the desert camouflage army gear rather than bright and noticeable.  I guess they think it looks neat and clean in those boring colors. Or perhaps they are just trying to be "safe" and not have to face the wrath of the "color police".

[ricker]

OMGawd I pood and peed u make me laugh so hard   {Anut Eulabelle}

I personally think it would be more effective to simply take all the guns away from Aunt Eulabelle and the uppity cousins before they start shooting at yet another 'outsider', but this is a commendable job!

GET THAT JOINT UP AND TURNING A PROFIT!
Hire decent local individuals with manners who won't get you shut down.
Simple.

GOODLUCK!

[iloveionia]

A Springfield friend and I walked Main Street and visited with Silas' son and talked about the car wash. 

Grand Opening January 1, including a barbeque to highlight the day.
In addition to the automatic wash, there will be a hand wash and detail area back by the bungalows.
There will be air and vaccums free of charge to use.
There will be planned vintage car shows in the paved lot directly on Main Street.
The landscaping is coming along, there is lots of green grass and plants already, he will be planting more flowers soon.
There were iron tables and chairs with umbrellas outside.

I apologized for the neighborhood and his "welcome" and said that I hope he would be successful.  My friend said she would be bringing her car for washes.

Quite honestly?  I'm impressed.  And that's tough to do.

Go check it out.  Do it.  Drive by.  Stop by, get out and talk to them.  Worth it. 

[thelakelander]

I'm glad things appear to be turning out okay and that the car wash will be an asset to the area.  It seems that the owner is keeping his word on the improvements to the site that he promised.

[Coolyfett]

A Springfield friend and I walked Main Street and visited with Silas' son and talked about the car wash. 

Grand Opening January 1, including a barbeque to highlight the day.
In addition to the automatic wash, there will be a hand wash and detail area back by the bungalows.
There will be air and vaccums free of charge to use.
There will be planned vintage car shows in the paved lot directly on Main Street.
The landscaping is coming along, there is lots of green grass and plants already, he will be planting more flowers soon.
There were iron tables and chairs with umbrellas outside.

I apologized for the neighborhood and his "welcome" and said that I hope he would be successful.  My friend said she would be bringing her car for washes.

Quite honestly?  I'm impressed.  And that's tough to do.

Go check it out.  Do it.  Drive by.  Stop by, get out and talk to them.  Worth it. 

How many cities have a Famous Car Wash, that people travel to visit?? This could be that place!

[iloveionia]

I am not in Jax right now. 
Did the carwash have it's grand opening on January 1st?