Is Springfield Ready for a Car Wash?

Started by Metro Jacksonville, January 06, 2010, 06:20:42 AM

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: sheclown on July 09, 2010, 02:39:41 PM
It is turning taupe as we speak.

Thank god, the city has been saved, and now I'll be able to sleep at night...

(sigh)


ChriswUfGator

Quote from: stephendare on July 09, 2010, 02:42:17 PM
so it really was a primer coat?

Good merciful God of dingo kidneys and dingbats. ::)

Well you know SPAR, nothing like a good coat of primer to get all upset about, LMAO...


avs


Kay

The way I interpreted what Jason originally wrote is that he was not complying with the required renovations. It had nothing to do with color. 


So is he complying with the approved design?

ChriswUfGator

Quote from: Kay on July 09, 2010, 03:22:50 PM
The way I interpreted what Jason originally wrote is that he was not complying with the required renovations. It had nothing to do with color.  


So is he complying with the approved design?

Jason was getting flak from the LOLAs, which prompted him to pull a CYA.

But I find the really funny thing is that even if the carwash were in fact going to be burgundy, which obviously isn't the case, then it still would have complied with the approved design. There is nothing in the property's commercial zoning, the Springfield Overlay, or in the COA that prohibited him from painting the building a particular color.

Certain people jumped a little too quickly at the chance to say "I told you so" and no doubt piled onto Content, and Jason disappointingly decided to play along with an appeasement strategy. But it was a non-issue to begin with, there is no list of prohibited colors in his COA, or in the overlay. He can change a paint color if he wants without changing the approved design.


danno

I guess I was right about the primer...... Maybe it was just Silas stiring the pot.

iluvolives

I doubt a person would use red primer to prep for taupe paint. He probably just caught wind of the complaints, I think someone on the site already mentioned they went to speak to him about the color choice. Either way at least he is willing to compromise to please whoever was pissed about the red.


iloveionia

Hard to deny that the majority of folks judge by appearances.  The new color is 1,000 better.  Aesthetically pleasing.  Now it is on the right track.  Yippee for sensibility!


KuroiKetsunoHana

'yippee for sensibility'?  really?  wouldn't it be better (maybe even 1,000 better!) to have a neighbourhood where 'bowing to pressure from a bunch ov self-important petty megalomaniacs' isn't considered synonymous with 'sensible'?
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jason_contentdg

It was not primer, he was painting it red.  The design and colors that were presented to the council for exception had to be followed.  The paint colors did not matter at all to the HPC, but would have prevented him from opening, as would have the 10' high fence, because they were not what was represented in the site plan and design that got approved.  If he follows the road map, he opens....

I talked numerous times to Silas and other people that have stake in the project, i.e. planning and hpc, and Silas is back on track and has 1 more COA to obtain, signage.

jason_contentdg

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Quote from: ChriswUfGator on July 09, 2010, 03:27:50 PM
Quote from: Kay on July 09, 2010, 03:22:50 PM
The way I interpreted what Jason originally wrote is that he was not complying with the required renovations. It had nothing to do with color.  


So is he complying with the approved design?

Jason was getting flak from the LOLAs, which prompted him to pull a CYA.

But I find the really funny thing is that even if the carwash were in fact going to be burgundy, which obviously isn't the case, then it still would have complied with the approved design. There is nothing in the property's commercial zoning, the Springfield Overlay, or in the COA that prohibited him from painting the building a particular color.

Certain people jumped a little too quickly at the chance to say "I told you so" and no doubt piled onto Content, and Jason disappointingly decided to play along with an appeasement strategy. But it was a non-issue to begin with, there is no list of prohibited colors in his COA, or in the overlay. He can change a paint color if he wants without changing the approved design.

There are so many things wrong with the paragraph, but I'll play along, especially since you have no idea what I or Content Design has done to try and help Silas get this thing open and the whole paint issue does not tie into HPC and yes, of course you wont find a list of approved colors.  If Silas was trying to open a pizza place or other business that did not need a full design to help him get approval by exception, the the color would not matter at all...

Now if you think otherwise and Silas can paint the building whatever color and do what he wants, I think you need to take your beef to Planning....or if you'd like for me to try and schedule a meeting with you, Silas, and planning staff so you can tell them they are wrong and you can tell Silas what he does or does not need to do, just let me know.

Again, he agreed to the conditions, they aren't that difficult to meet...its up to Silas and he knows this.





iloveionia

Quote from: KuroiKetsunoHana on July 09, 2010, 05:42:47 PM
'yippee for sensibility'?  really?  wouldn't it be better (maybe even 1,000 better!) to have a neighbourhood where 'bowing to pressure from a bunch ov self-important petty megalomaniacs' isn't considered synonymous with 'sensible'?

I don't pay attention to all the "sparbarian" talk, certain "behaviors" of certain residents, LOLAs, etc.  I don't know who is being referred to half the time and honestly, I don't care.

I've followed the facts of the car wash.  I applaud Content Design for stepping up to help the owner open his business, and am pleased the owner changed the color to something more harmonious with a historic district.  My comment about sensibility was directly a the owner's sensibility. . .do it right the first time and he can open.  Follow the approved plan and he can open.  I've got a dirty tahoe that needs love.  And I'm ready for the carwash to open!!


strider

Quote from: avs on July 09, 2010, 03:12:45 PM
hilarious

The best post of the day...it is hilarious that the color of this building, which means nothing as others have already posted that the other stuff, the important stuff was being followed.  And that the idea of a ten foot fence, a truly bad idea I might add, seemed to take second place to color.  Hilarious.  The "color gods" are laughing their ass off.
"My father says that almost the whole world is asleep. Everybody you know. Everybody you see. Everybody you talk to. He says that only a few people are awake and they live in a state of constant total amazement." Patrica, Joe VS the Volcano.

iloveionia

I haven't seen a fence erected as of yet.  When a 10 foot fence is erected, I'll do my dance and chant to the "fence Gods" and ask for it's height modification.  ;-)


ChriswUfGator

Quote from: jason_contentdg on July 09, 2010, 05:53:14 PM
It was not primer, he was painting it red.  The design and colors that were presented to the council for exception had to be followed.  The paint colors did not matter at all to the HPC, but would have prevented him from opening, as would have the 10' high fence, because they were not what was represented in the site plan and design that got approved.  If he follows the road map, he opens....

I talked numerous times to Silas and other people that have stake in the project, i.e. planning and hpc, and Silas is back on track and has 1 more COA to obtain, signage.

I disagree with your legal conclusion...

And I'd still love to see that list of "prohibited paint colors" anywhere in the zoning, the COA, or the overlay...