Executive Director of SPAR Council "Comes Out"!

Started by strider, October 14, 2009, 06:37:34 PM

strider

"My father says that almost the whole world is asleep. Everybody you know. Everybody you see. Everybody you talk to. He says that only a few people are awake and they live in a state of constant total amazement." Patrica, Joe VS the Volcano.

fsu813

oh jeez.

can we all agree that not all structures in a historic district are worthy and / or suitable for saving?

i think this would be obvious.

i also think it'd be obvious to wait and bash her until you have any idea what the reason for demolition would be. i have no personal knowledge, neither do you.

but perhaps waiting until you know would be too much to ask.

lets just guess!

sheclown


sheclown

A man, educated and trained, to make these decisions in historic districts.

Sportmotor

I am the Sheep Dog.

Karl_Pilkington

Quote from: Sportmotor on October 14, 2009, 07:07:58 PM
I say rip it all down and rebuild up to code!

definitely, #2 pine is way better than heart pine and that strandboard sheathing is the bomb, not to mention that drywall is 100 times better than that crappy lathe and plaster.  I agree rebuild them all, would give some of those construction types jobs that they so desperately need.  And this time everyone can have tyvek.
"Does the brain control you or are you controlling the brain? I don't know if I'm in charge of mine." KP

Sportmotor

Quote from: stephendare on October 14, 2009, 07:11:38 PM
Quote from: Sportmotor on October 14, 2009, 07:07:58 PM
I say rip it all down and rebuild up to code!

Its against the law.  And you couldnt afford to replace what is already there.

There are 868 other square miles of the city to build the cheap ass ghetto constructed new  buildings that fall apart in 20 years.  Springfield is a historic district with federal recognition.

Think about what happened to one of the most historic African American Districts in the south here in Jacksonville:  LaVilla.

This is about the furthest opposite that you can get from the public interest.

Method to my madness would be it would give SO many new jobs and oppratunitys and would def last a good while. Best ways in the past to boost economy, building things. Public works projects. Rebuilding that would do so much good for jobs here in Jax.
I am the Sheep Dog.

Dark Knight


Sportmotor

Im not actually being funny, I think it would do Jax alot of good to start to tear down and rebuild some of the old.
Also gives a chance to redo the aging roads in the same process
Plus drainage, and anything else all in one swoop costing less in a long run.
I am the Sheep Dog.

Sportmotor

Im not attracted to any historical downtown, those areas usally throw my alignment on my vechical out of wack or more then once given me something stuck in my wheel, and odd looks of "why is a white boy down here".

Id say a modern downtown (more so then it is now becuase atm its not) would be more attractive then a decaying downtown.
I am the Sheep Dog.

sheclown

We need to get a list of the houses scheduled for demo, quickly!  We also need to let the folks downtown know that THIS is NOT how all the neighborhood feels about the old homes.

Sportmotor

Quote from: stephendare on October 14, 2009, 07:52:25 PM
then you just dont understand what a historic district is. ;)

But we get your opinion.

aging decaying and full of crime :P
I am the Sheep Dog.

civil42806

So everyone in springfield does in fact behave like a 15 year old girl

Sigma

#13
QuoteMethod to my madness would be it would give SO many new jobs and oppratunitys and would def last a good while. Best ways in the past to boost economy, building things. Public works projects. Rebuilding that would do so much good for jobs here in Jax.

You might want to pick up a copy of "Economics in One Lesson" by Hazlitt  - Chap 4 I believe.  It's written so that even wolves can understand.

QuoteWhat possible motivation would cause the Springfield Preservation and Restoration board to sabotage the Historic Preservation Commission and angrily demand that historic structures be demolished?

I was thinking the same thing, Stephen.  ??? It does seem that a certain developer is very close to Louise, and that same developer often quickly purchases lots after these historic houses have been demolished.

Joel is a man of high caliber and is doing his job.  I've been with him on several inspections and he does not sign off on demolition work unless the structure is too dangerous to walk through.

While fsu813 could be right, it does demand a thorough vetting and explanation at the next SPAR General Meeting.
"The learned Fool writes his Nonsense in better Language than the unlearned; but still 'tis Nonsense."  --Ben Franklin 1754

Sigma

Quotecan we all agree that not all structures in a historic district are worthy and / or suitable for saving?

Yes fsu813, we can agree.  But that's Joel's decision.  Not to be coerced by the leader of a HISTORIC PRESERVATION Group whose purpose is to save these structures!
"The learned Fool writes his Nonsense in better Language than the unlearned; but still 'tis Nonsense."  --Ben Franklin 1754