SPAR Tries to Pass Law to Ban Non Family Members from Living Together.

Started by stephendare, October 12, 2009, 06:22:48 PM

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jason_contentdg

^ That's the main point, if it stays at 5 and they are going to enforce it better, awesome.  Even college heavy towns hold max non family household to around 4 I think.  Look at Gainesville, most units over there hold max roommates to 4.  And if its as easy as it seems to get access to these emails you would think we'd see something with a definitive number.

If it is less than 5, I think it's wrong.  Five seems pretty darn reasonable to me though.

As of right now, there's a ton of fear mongering it seems.  I've not seen anything where unmarried or gay couples should worry at all in any of these "damning" emails, but there's certainly been a few posts in this thread putting the fear into them that they should be.

jason_contentdg

Actually that would mean 3 blood relatives, and 1 by legal adoption and a roommate correct? Not 5 un-related individuals.

soviette

The points of this that bother me:

What if someone is to rent a home in Springfield that is 3/3 and they have 3 couples living in it quietly?
If Florida won't legalize gay marriage or civil unions -- any gay couples will not be recognised as a family, then that verges on predjudism in itself.

I work in realty/property management and we have private owners who are reluctant to rent to college students/roommates. Now, I mostly work intercoastal/beaches area, but we are allowed to say 'it is a single family dwelling, therefore the owner would prefer a single family living in it.' If the owners are allowed to make that decision, then why not just leave it at that?

jason_contentdg

Quote from: soviette on October 16, 2009, 03:34:00 PM
If the owners are allowed to make that decision, then why not just leave it at that?

It seems to me that SPAR is having issue with owners of homes that would like to pack as many people as possible into a home of they could and because of this is trying to pass legislation that would make those people suffer, but in turn would also make others not looking to make a profit, suffer.

sheclown

Okay, this legislation does not need to address "packing them in" as that is addressed by the 5 or fewer.  There are laws on the books regarding this.

This is about prejudice.  Period.  Get the poor out of the neighborhood...

After all, the rich don't need roommates, do they?


jason_contentdg

So, then will this new legislation be for only houses that are being rented out or for all single family residences?

jason_contentdg

Quote from: sheclown on October 16, 2009, 03:54:33 PM
Okay, this legislation does not need to address "packing them in" as that is addressed by the 5 or fewer.  There are laws on the books regarding this.

This is about prejudice.  Period.  Get the poor out of the neighborhood...

After all, the rich don't need roommates, do they?

So, this wouldn't affect a rich gay couple and their foster kids? Only the poor?

02roadking

Congratulations, this thread has now decended to the level of the T/U's comments section. Say it ain't so  :- :'(
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jason_contentdg

^This apparent proposed legislation has a lot of hype to live up to

RiversideLoki

Quote from: 02roadking on October 16, 2009, 04:30:47 PM
Congratulations, this thread has now decended to the level of the T/U's comments section. Say it ain't so  :- :'(

If it were the T/U comments section this thread would have more "It's your fault for voting for Obama/Pelosi" comments.

Still, I think it's all conjecture at this point. But worth taking into consideration. If such laws are passed they could have intense ramifications on living situations in the city. But we know from experiance most local legislation that's drafted for a special purpose is usually only selectively enforced anyways. So I don't think it's any sort of "chicken little, sky is fallin'" scenario right yet.
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02roadking

Quote from: stephendare on October 16, 2009, 04:41:06 PM
I dont think so road king.  These are all metrojacksonville styley comments.  No racism, outright ignorance or liberal/neocon screaming.

A couple of them are even quite clever.

Allright, maybe not that bad.
 I'll wait till I see the actual legislation before I comment further.
Springfield since 1998

CrysG

So I want to point out the obvious. According to what I've read only married couple or family by blood counts as family.

So where do adopted children fall into that?

iluvolives

As it is currently stated, family is based on law, blood, marriage or adoption. So it pretty clear that adopted child counts as a family member.

Just curious- is there no limit on the number of individuals living in a home that is zoned "Single Family" that you think would be reasonable? Why zone at all if I could move 45 of my closest friends into a house with me?