Caution: LA is coming to steal your NFL team in 2011

[Wacca Pilatka]

Awesome, man.

I can't wait 'til my little one's old enough to go!  At 16 months, she loves Jaxson and can already recognize the team logo, and signals "Touchdown!"  I just hope the team can weather this rough patch, rack up the new fans and win back some more old fans along the way.

I've given plush Jaxsons to about all the children I know...he's a great ambassador to have on our side.  I recently had a conversation about him with my best friend's three-year-old.

ME: What's his name? (pointing to Jaxson)
HER: Jaguar.
ME: But what is his name?
HER: JACKSONVILLE jaguar.

I felt like I'd accomplished something.

[mtraininjax]

For all you worry-warts, you should see what the Minnesota Vikings are having to deal with in regard to their stadium issues. The Twin Cities want the Vikes to sign an extended lease, the Vikes said hell now, as if to push a new stadium referendum, and the Twin Cities went and rescinded a 4 million a year rent clause that the Vikes now have to pay. You think a few blackouts are an issue here? What happens when you piss off an NFL owner, do you think he wants to keep a franchise in that city?

Look for the Vikes to move before Favre retires again, or whenever LA opens their stadium.

[Keith-N-Jax]

Yeah but nobody's being blasted like we are though.

[mtraininjax]

Yeah but nobody's being blasted like we are though.

Does anyone here read the Times Union? Geez, Vic, the Jags beat writer wrote about the Vikes plight in the Sunday paper. Minnesota is mentioned along with a handful of other teams as having an issue this season. But when the colts moved from Baltimore to Indy, it was because the Owner did it, and got what he wanted.

Owners make the rules and Weaver plans to stay here, he is very happy in Jax. He has roots and ties to the community, and the City has bent over backward to help, as they should.

[Keith-N-Jax]

Nice, but the Jags and the fans are being blasted big time. Times Union - dont have money to waste. I read Vic on the Jaguars site.

[JaxNative68]

You have to remember, everyone outside of Jax blasts Jax.  And the Times-Union, what a worthless rag.  Everything written in it has already been posted to other prominent news web sites days before.  Honestly, I think the Times-Union writers get their info and write their stories based on other news websites.  They are always two - three days behind everyone else.

[mtraininjax]

Keith - 55 cents a day for a full year's subscription. A can of coke costs more. Stop being a cheapskate.

JaxNative - No one, not the Daily Record, MetroJax, Folio will tell you what you learn in the TU on a Sunday about the NFL as a league. Not pushing for TU Subs, but you would not have learned about the Minnesota story without help from the TU, so give them some credit. They do have some great local stories that no one else covers. Again for 55 cents a day, less than a cup of latte, which your body does not need, you can read about the local news and keep current with the world.

[Keith-N-Jax]

I dont drink coke, and I dont care if it was free!(Times Union)

[jandar]

Keith - 55 cents a day for a full year's subscription. A can of coke costs more. Stop being a cheapskate.

JaxNative - No one, not the Daily Record, MetroJax, Folio will tell you what you learn in the TU on a Sunday about the NFL as a league. Not pushing for TU Subs, but you would not have learned about the Minnesota story without help from the TU, so give them some credit. They do have some great local stories that no one else covers. Again for 55 cents a day, less than a cup of latte, which your body does not need, you can read about the local news and keep current with the world.

Or I can get the same news hours if not days before from online for free.
The only thing exclusive to the TU would be editorials.
Even the sports columns and such are released to the AP, or on their own website.
Do you know that Tarrell Brown (the 49'ers starting CB) might be demoted this week? What, the TU did not report it? Wow, its been on the wire for 10 hours now as of this posting.

Its like the Black Friday deals now. I don't buy the thursday paper, and abhor all the ads in the mail i get 2-3 days before hand.
I get a nice compiled spreadsheet with all of the deals. That allows me to look at them, price shop them with normal prices a week or two ahead to see if they are actually a deal. (most are not, moreso if you value standing in line for 12 hours to be worth a couple bucks an hour)

Time has passed the Times Union and most other newspapers by.
Why go to the TU for classified ads for jobs and such? I can get free ads from Craigslist (even ebay tries to sue them) and monster.com, hotjobs, etc.

The TU needs to be a niche player to survive. Get exclusive content that other sources won't have. That's why Folio Weekly still does well (at least I think so). The TU needs to stop being a national news source, and focus local only.

A report on TechCruch states it all:

It’s not the “paper” part of newspaper that’s the problem, it’s the “news.” As in, newspapers are way too slow at delivering it in the age of the Internet. People are unsubscribing from newspapers because what’s the point of reading something in print a day after you’ve read it online?”

[midnightblackrx]

For all you worry-warts, you should see what the Minnesota Vikings are having to deal with in regard to their stadium issues. The Twin Cities want the Vikes to sign an extended lease, the Vikes said hell now, as if to push a new stadium referendum, and the Twin Cities went and rescinded a 4 million a year rent clause that the Vikes now have to pay. You think a few blackouts are an issue here? What happens when you piss off an NFL owner, do you think he wants to keep a franchise in that city?

Look for the Vikes to move before Favre retires again, or whenever LA opens their stadium.

It would be sad to see such a classic NFL franchise like the Vikings leaving that city.  They've got great fan support and tradition. True they've got some things to work out in terms of contract extensions for the dome and getting the city to support a new stadium but it wouldn't be right for them to move the team from such a great sports city. It would be a major blow to the league if we no longer saw a Vikings/Bears or Vikings/Packers matchup. Why don't you just move the Pats, Giants and Steelers while you are at it.

[Wacca Pilatka]

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It would be sad to see such a classic NFL franchise like the Vikings leaving that city.  They've got great fan support and tradition. True they've got some things to work out in terms of contract extensions for the dome and getting the city to support a new stadium but it wouldn't be right for them to move the team from such a great sports city. It would be a major blow to the league if we no longer saw a Vikings/Bears or Vikings/Packers matchup. Why don't you just move the Pats, Giants and Steelers while you are at it.

It's amazing how the Pats have come to be grouped in with the other "heritage teams" in a remarkably short amount of time.  In the early 90s they only had about 17,000 season ticket holders and blacked out every game, and were rumored to be moving to St. Louis.  At one point Charlie Rice from Barnett Bank looked into buying them and moving them to Jacksonville. 

[NotNow]

Just more proof that winning matters!

[Sportmotor]

just had someoen come back from LA today, there is a big buzz about them getting the Jags there apparntly. Atleast that is what the majorty over there seem to think that will be the best bet to get

[stjr]

just had someoen come back from LA today, there is a big buzz about them getting the Jags there apparntly. Atleast that is what the majorty over there seem to think that will be the best bet to get

And... there was a big buzz about St. Louis or Baltimore getting the Jags franchise... until it was announced otherwise.

Fact is, the fans and the press will be the last to know anything.  NFL owners are a private club and make decisions behind closed doors.  Buzz is just a rumor mill in high gear fanned by the media trying to attract eyeballs and I wouldn't put any stock in it whatsoever.

Support the Jags with ticket purchases and everything "may" be OK.  That's the best we can hope for.  If Wayne were to sell or lose control of the team by death or incapacity, no one could say right now what a future controlling interest would do regardless of our support and another city's desires.

[NotNow]

I know that this is business and it is about money.  But until proven otherwise, I'll take WW at his word that he will not move the franchise.