Jaguars already planning Phase II for Lot J development

[heights unknown]

So maybe by 2040 this will actually get built? That's the most realistic information I've seen on this project to date...and it's highly optimistic based on the speed of things so far.

You'll likely still be alive, so what are you complaining about?

Kahn probably won't; and I know I won't.

[bl8jaxnative]

How are the experiments with small format stores by chains like Target going?   Could that be someone looking to role the dice?

More importantly, what are the developers offering these potential grocers?  It's not uncommon to give some pretty sweet deals for a few years to get the place filled up with the amenity.   Then a few years later when the sweatheart deal expires, the space sits empty.  The owner doesn't mind since it served it's purpose and it's purpose wasn't long term.

[thelakelander]

I seriously doubt a grocery ends up here. Two or three years ago, there was a similar article about the office component. Now they've kicked that to a phase 2 with no timeline for its completion. Yet, the subsidies requested for a smaller phase 1 with stick frame apartments (just like we said they'd be over a year ago) will likely remain the same.

[thelakelander]

The grocery will more than likely be a Daily's convenience store than a major grocery chain or Target.

[MusicMan]

Maybe Daily's could create a new concept small grocery store for this location.

[thelakelander]

It would close. Nobody lives in the sports district and it will take a lot more units than what's proposed to support a grocery at that location. Same for their convention center plan. That's a minimum of 20 years away from happening.

[edjax]

Perhaps a Tesco Express next to a pub so Shad will feel more at home.

[MusicMan]

I've got it:

A floating grocery barge that goes back and forth from The District to The Shipyards!  Capt Peter Rummell can skipper it!
Reminiscent of the port a potty company:  FLO-TEEZ: We Float 'Em, You tote 'Em

[JaxAvondale]

Perhaps a Tesco Express next to a pub so Shad will feel more at home.

That would work for me. Haha!

[Snaketoz]

This all makes it good to be old.

[Kerry]

"We could be bilking taxpayers here for 20 years." Not sure if I got that quote right....

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/cordish-executive-shares-new-details-renderings-of-lot-j-shipyards-development

I just got around to reading the article you linked to.  Holy cow there was a ton of double-speak in that story, and a whole bunch of "could be" and "possible".

Also love how they say it will create 1025 permanent jobs, but include 800 of those from a company that doesn't even exist.

Classic.

[marcuscnelson]

Are they planning to relocate WJCT? The "Future Phases" area includes building right on top of where their current station is.

The overall plan looks lovely, but if it's basically going to require a billion dollars in public money, I'm not entirely sure what the point of a private developer is.

[Charles Hunter]

Are they planning to relocate WJCT? The "Future Phases" area includes building right on top of where their current station is.

The overall plan looks lovely, but if it's basically going to require a billion dollars in public money, I'm not entirely sure what the point of a private developer is.

Maybe Iguana is planning on WJCT being a tenant in one of the office buildings - at premium rates.
Because private developers do it better ... with lots of public money.

[Snaketoz]

Are they planning to relocate WJCT? The "Future Phases" area includes building right on top of where their current station is.

The overall plan looks lovely, but if it's basically going to require a billion dollars in public money, I'm not entirely sure what the point of a private developer is.

Maybe Iguana is planning on WJCT being a tenant in one of the office buildings - at premium rates.
Because private developers do it better ... with lots of public money.

So true.

[Kerry]

Are they planning to relocate WJCT? The "Future Phases" area includes building right on top of where their current station is.

The overall plan looks lovely, but if it's basically going to require a billion dollars in public money, I'm not entirely sure what the point of a private developer is.

Exactly!  Why not just eliminate the "private developer" component, fund the whole thing with tax dollars, and keep all the profits for the City".