OakLeaf Plantation: Suburbia Built to Last?

Started by Metro Jacksonville, November 11, 2015, 03:00:01 AM


David

Look at MetroJax, showing the suburbs some love! Or at least giving them some attention. The burbs just aren't sexy. Practical though. Those home prices are pretty tempting, especially after house hunting in Mandarin.

CCMjax

Looks like a more affordable Nocatee.  I doubt they will build the village center the way it is shown in the conceptual drawings but I applaud them if they do.  They did the same at Durbin Crossing and to a certain extent Nocatee.  Tried to sell this beautiful, walkable village center idea with really nice renderings to buyers but at Durbin they never built it, just built more houses where it was supposed to go and at Nocatee just built a strip center with a Publix, a massive parking lot in the middle of it and outparcel establishments and called it a Town Center.  The only suburban community around here that followed through on what they were selling with a "real village center" was Palencia I believe.  That one turned out pretty nice in my opinion but prices are much higher.
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tufsu1

Quote from: David on November 11, 2015, 12:02:58 PM
Practical though. Those home prices are pretty tempting, especially after house hunting in Mandarin.

People seem to often forget the true cost of where they live.  It is important to look at the housing-transportation cost combo.  While places like Orlando and Tampa are cheaper than many metro areas in the country, their combined housing-transportation costs rank near the top.

So, depending on where you shop, work, etc., Oakleaf may or may not make sense over other areas like Mandarin. 

RattlerGator

Quote from: David on November 11, 2015, 12:02:58 PM
Look at MetroJax, showing the suburbs some love!

How in the hell did this get past Stephen? Ennis -- you subversive!

thelakelander

I'm long overdue on updating the neighborhood photo tours. I'll be focusing more on them (urban, suburban, and rural) over the next few months.
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Bill Hoff

I became a little more depressed with each photo.

Reminds me of when I asked my nephew to play catch with me on the next the block over. He didn't know what a "block" was, because he grew up without them in suburbia.

Save the children.

mbwright

I always find the pricing signage interesting.  It says homes from $100,000's.  I seriously doubt there are homes for sale in the $100,000 to $109,999 range.

copperfiend

The price is right on a lot of these homes, and those just south along Branan Field. But for me, the drive to work would be pure hell.

thelakelander

#9
Unless your life is centered around that area, the drive to anywhere worthwhile is complete hell. Add in those transportation costs and things might not end up being as affordable as originally mentioned. Long term plans include more office and commercial space. Oakleaf will also benefit from additional industrial and aviation related development at Cecil Field. With that said, would anyone be opposed to multifamily housing like this being built in the city?





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jaxjags

Having lived in ATL from 1994 to 2006, I have to chuckle when  I here "commute  from hell" as related to JAX. My wife does a 45 minute commute here you would not even think about in ATL. It would be 1.5 to 2 hours each way (Sorry MARTA was not available where we lived). I do agree with total costs to live some where and I'm a big believer in mass transit, but unless there is a car accident (opps I meant crash) commuting here by car is not bad.

finehoe

Where does the "built to last" part come in?  Looks like your typical cheap particleboard and tyvek wrap construction.

It'll be a run-down ghetto in thirty years.

copperfiend

Quote from: finehoe on November 12, 2015, 10:43:54 AM
Where does the "built to last" part come in?  Looks like your typical cheap particleboard and tyvek wrap construction.

It'll be a run-down ghetto in thirty years.

You are correct.

It's going to be like the rest of Argyle Forest. My family moved there in 1991, in Chimney Lakes. At the time that was the "nice part" of Argyle. Then it got pushed back to by the elementary school as the newer, nicer part. Then when they extended Argyle Forest past Shindler, those new developments were nicer. And then Oakleaf, and then Eagles Landings, and so on.

thelakelander

Quote from: jaxjags on November 12, 2015, 10:20:55 AM
Having lived in ATL from 1994 to 2006, I have to chuckle when  I here "commute  from hell" as related to JAX. My wife does a 45 minute commute here you would not even think about in ATL. It would be 1.5 to 2 hours each way (Sorry MARTA was not available where we lived). I do agree with total costs to live some where and I'm a big believer in mass transit, but unless there is a car accident (opps I meant crash) commuting here by car is not bad.
That's a commute from hell as well. For me time is money. Unless I'm being paid to travel 45 minutes to 2 hours each way (with my mileage covered), I wouldn't do it.
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RattlerGator

Quote from: stephendare on November 12, 2015, 08:58:52 AM
I guess because the only world in which there is some bizarre dichotomy between suburbs and urban areas exists only in your own head?

Says the man of the website MetroJacksonville who apparently has no clue what "metropolitan" or "metro" means. Here's a clue: it doesn't mean urban core.