Employee shot at The Blind Rabbit restaurant in Riverside

Started by Apache, July 23, 2015, 07:29:10 AM

The_Choose_1

Quote from: Sentient on September 16, 2015, 07:51:30 PM
Quote from: Local Artist on September 16, 2015, 03:16:16 PM
Did they ever find the suspects?

Did they look?  Were there any Lonzie like press conferences and daily updates?
Look at the facts and see that most murders in Jacksonville and USA in general are not solved. Detective Miller was shot and killed while assisting another officer with a burglary call. Detective Miller was approached by a suspect who attempted to rob him and then shot him.
:'( Detective Miller is survived by his wife, four sons, and daughter. May 6th 1995. And the person that killed this officer has not be found. So unless the JSO has any new evidence or someone turns their-self in the killer of the Employee of the Blind Rabbit on King Street may never be found.  :'( :'(
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Sentient

Quote from: The_Choose_1 on September 17, 2015, 09:01:11 AM
Quote from: Sentient on September 16, 2015, 07:51:30 PM
Quote from: Local Artist on September 16, 2015, 03:16:16 PM
Did they ever find the suspects?

Did they look?  Were there any Lonzie like press conferences and daily updates?
Look at the facts and see that most murders in Jacksonville and USA in general are not solved. Detective Miller was shot and killed while assisting another officer with a burglary call. Detective Miller was approached by a suspect who attempted to rob him and then shot him.
:'( Detective Miller is survived by his wife, four sons, and daughter. May 6th 1995. And the person that killed this officer has not be found. So unless the JSO has any new evidence or someone turns their-self in the killer of the Employee of the Blind Rabbit on King Street may never be found.  :'( :'(

It's easier not to find when you don't look.

The_Choose_1

#107
Quote from: Sentient on September 17, 2015, 09:15:35 AM
Quote from: The_Choose_1 on September 17, 2015, 09:01:11 AM
Quote from: Sentient on September 16, 2015, 07:51:30 PM
Quote from: Local Artist on September 16, 2015, 03:16:16 PM
Did they ever find the suspects?

Did they look?  Were there any Lonzie like press conferences and daily updates?
Look at the facts and see that most murders in Jacksonville and USA in general are not solved. Detective Miller was shot and killed while assisting another officer with a burglary call. Detective Miller was approached by a suspect who attempted to rob him and then shot him.
:'( Detective Miller is survived by his wife, four sons, and daughter. May 6th 1995. And the person that killed this officer has not be found. So unless the JSO has any new evidence or someone turns their-self in the killer of the Employee of the Blind Rabbit on King Street may never be found.  :'( :'(

It's easier not to find when you don't look.
This is very true. And I have knowledge that in another case the JSO has ruined one person's life all because someone lied about a crime. Falsified a police report which in itself is a crime. Someone placed an illegal GPS tracking device on a car to build a case that wasn't there. And the JSO wonders why the general public doesn't Trust them? p.s. And to the Lawyers in Jacksonville Florida that were no help because they felt this was a libel case and no money could be made from it. You Suck!
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Josh

JSO is giving a live press conference now.

edit: Sounds like not much is new except for an additional reward being offered.


Cheshire Cat

I have been hearing some inside rumbling from some that this young man was targeted.  It is tragic regardless.
Diane Melendez
We're all mad here!

Josh

JSO is announcing they have made an arrest for the murder. Pretty crazy the timing is on the 1 year anniversary.

edit: The timing is probably no coincidence.

Adam White

Quote from: Josh on July 25, 2016, 03:07:41 PM
JSO is announcing they have made an arrest for the murder. Pretty crazy the timing is on the 1 year anniversary.

Wow!
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mtraininjax

This goes to show you that the JSO does not give up on cold cases. Every life matters to them and the reports about the assailant is that there is still another that the JSO is looking for, and I hope they find.
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ronchamblin

#114
Espresso Rush on Laura Street this morning.  Forgive me please, for I know not what I think.

Cause and effect mechanisms permeate both the physical and the mental universes.  Every consequence has its cause or causes.

Tragedies such as this -- when a young innocent is shot to death on a street in Riverside and their loved ones suffer to the end of their lives ... are in great measure the consequences of societal conditions evolved from out of touch and dysfunctional governmental and legal systems

Whereas the physical universe is for the most part stable, open to calm observation; thus allowing one to observe, discover, and engage with some precision; the complexities of the human mind and society resist understanding, and therefore are less open to manipulation so as to avoid great suffering -- as in war, starvation, illness, murders, and mass killings.  Outside of the physical universe; that is, within society or the human mind, the observer is too awkwardly and emotionally entangled with the observed. 

The innocent young man killed on a tragic day about a year ago was clearly the primary victim, and his loved ones who suffer his absence were the secondary.  But what of the killer?  Imagine this killer twenty years ago, as a young boy.  Who would have thought that he, emerging from youth, would actually shoot someone, apparently for a few dollars, on a street in a local neighborhood twenty years later?  Was he a killer from birth, or did societal elements through time and circumstance create the killer?

Was he, and are others who've similar circumstances of birth and societal predicament, destined to engage the world of crime in order to survive ... in order to gain some position, some kind of footing in our society?  Are too many black youths and men, from the beginning faced with so few choices as to economic survival that they choose in desperation the quick and easy?  As choices for survival become scarce, certain actions allowing survival become increasingly probable.   

Accepting the killer's behavior is certainly not the object.  But if the objective is to reduce this kind of behavior, and thus the deaths and the suffering, there is more to be done than simply punishing and executing, as doing so avoids the real solution, and only perpetuates the very conditions that encourages and enables the kind of behavior we wish to end; behavior resulting in more killings ... more mothers without sons ..  more wives without husbands ... more children without fathers.

The man and the youth must survive economically.  By some method, money must be gained, as it alone allows survival.  How is money gained?  Preferably by working ... by being employed ... having a job; and secondarily via welfare ... a method not conducive to self respect and personal growth. 

How does one get a job?  Are there enough jobs?  Having a job is important, as without it, one can approach the desperation of an animal in the jungle. That is, to survive, one might encroach upon the space of others, attacking, as if an animal in the wild ... all to gain money to purchase stuff for survival.  An animal, even the human animal, must, by whatever means or actions available or possible ... survive.  What animal will simply lie down and starve or die, if there is any way possible to survive?

A society without jobs is a society inviting theft and killings.  Because the greatest unemployment is among black men, theirs is the population mostly incarcerated for years for trying to survive in the jungle.  The prison/legal/justice system, by way of its "solutions", actually creates policies so that, once released into the jungle, the "felon" has little or no chance to survive in it.  There are almost no jobs, and the habit is to avoid hiring felons. If a man has little or no skills for which an employer is willing to pay, he has few options to obtain money for survival.  How does one gain skills so that he can find a job?

The need for survival invites too often that terrible destination called incarceration.  The youth or man becomes a felon ... then an object trapped for abuse and financial rape by a system run for the most part by mental mediocrities; that is, bureaucrats, judges, cops, prosecutors, defense attorneys, probation officers;  mediocrities in part because of a system settled for too long without strong and principled leadership. 

There is a glimmer of hope however if the citizen's votes can purge from the abusive system the mediocre, cliche spouting, current leadership.  Unfortunately, even with the new office holders, we gamble, as all too often, the new leadership simply bends to the habits of the system.  Rarely arrives a leader .. from the president to the sheriff or to the state's attorney ... with the vision and the will to make the profound changes necessary to sway the system from one of perpetual abuse and tragedy to one of fairness and opportunity.   

A stable and somewhat comfortable society will give up its "stuff" to those in desperate need one way or another.  The young man, tragically shot and killed in Riverside was a consequence of a "giving up".  He was sacrificed ... the victim ... and we, the stupid ones, who don't understand the cause and effect principle ... are to some degree, responsible.

Cause and effect.  Things are so simple to the stupid.  Look at most typical politicians ... and some others in positions of leadership.  Shameful mediocrities, set on satisfying their own limited visions for self aggrandisement while cultivating their image of power ... all at the expense of critically needed changes via grand visions for society ... destined ultimately for the citizens within.         

Know Growth

#115
I have customers...now friends.....moved from Idaho to Florida , alternative to their Idaho Riverfront residence (which they have wisely decided to hang on to).

Airport area employment- these folks gravitated to Riverside apartment just down the street from Blind Rabbit,year lease while pursuing vessel purchase.

Move in was a bit after the Blind Rabbit episode- their eyes opened; realization over Riverside crime,discussions with LEO...the clincher was LEO knock on the door-stay inside,area robbery suspect on the loose,your neighbor across the street .......

Broke lease,moved to adjoining county for a time,and now back to location decidedly removed from King Street.

camarocane

Curious, have there been murders in Avondale and Ortega recently?

peestandingup

Quote from: ronchamblin on July 31, 2016, 09:49:23 AM
The innocent young man killed on a tragic day about a year ago was clearly the primary victim, and his loved ones who suffer his absence were the secondary.  But what of the killer?  Imagine this killer twenty years ago, as a young boy.  Who would have thought that he, emerging from youth, would actually shoot someone, apparently for a few dollars, on a street in a local neighborhood twenty years later?  Was he a killer from birth, or did societal elements through time and circumstance create the killer?

Was he, and are others who've similar circumstances of birth and societal predicament, destined to engage the world of crime in order to survive ... in order to gain some position, some kind of footing in our society?  Are too many black youths and men, from the beginning, faced with so few choices as to economic survival that they choose in desperation the quick and easy?  As choices for survival become scarce, certain actions allowing survival become increasingly probable.   

Accepting the killer's behavior is certainly not the object.  But if the objective is to reduce this kind of behavior, and thus the deaths and the suffering, there is more to be done than simply punishing and executing, as doing so only perpetuates the very conditions that encourages and enables the kind of behavior we wish to end; behavior resulting in more killings ... more mothers without sons ..  more wives without husbands ... more children without fathers.

The man and the youth must survive economically.  By some method, money must be gained, as it alone allows survival.  How is money gained?  Preferably by working ... by being employed ... having a job; and secondarily via welfare ... a method not conducive to self respect and personal growth. 

You've taken the cake with this one, Ron. Something tells me if the races were reversed, you wouldn't be spouting this philosophical horse shit.

If you feel its just economical situations causing people to kill, why don't you get some perspective & take a trip to parts of southern Appalachia (home of the poorest congressional districts in the entire country) & tell me how much killing you see.

Adam White

#118
Quote from: peestandingup on August 01, 2016, 11:34:46 AM
Quote from: ronchamblin on July 31, 2016, 09:49:23 AM
The innocent young man killed on a tragic day about a year ago was clearly the primary victim, and his loved ones who suffer his absence were the secondary.  But what of the killer?  Imagine this killer twenty years ago, as a young boy.  Who would have thought that he, emerging from youth, would actually shoot someone, apparently for a few dollars, on a street in a local neighborhood twenty years later?  Was he a killer from birth, or did societal elements through time and circumstance create the killer?

Was he, and are others who've similar circumstances of birth and societal predicament, destined to engage the world of crime in order to survive ... in order to gain some position, some kind of footing in our society?  Are too many black youths and men, from the beginning, faced with so few choices as to economic survival that they choose in desperation the quick and easy?  As choices for survival become scarce, certain actions allowing survival become increasingly probable.   

Accepting the killer's behavior is certainly not the object.  But if the objective is to reduce this kind of behavior, and thus the deaths and the suffering, there is more to be done than simply punishing and executing, as doing so only perpetuates the very conditions that encourages and enables the kind of behavior we wish to end; behavior resulting in more killings ... more mothers without sons ..  more wives without husbands ... more children without fathers.

The man and the youth must survive economically.  By some method, money must be gained, as it alone allows survival.  How is money gained?  Preferably by working ... by being employed ... having a job; and secondarily via welfare ... a method not conducive to self respect and personal growth. 

You've taken the cake with this one, Ron. Something tells me if the races were reversed, you wouldn't be spouting this philosophical horse shit.

If you feel its just economical situations causing people to kill, why don't you get some perspective & take a trip to parts of southern Appalachia (home of the poorest congressional districts in the entire country) & tell me how much killing you see.

Sigh.

Did you choose Appalachia because it's predominantly white? Are you attempting to say something without saying it?

I think you'll find murder rates in rural areas (regardless of the makeup of the population) tend to be lower than those in cities.

There are myriad causes of crime. Here's a nice article you may be interested to read. Or to automatically discount:

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1991-06-16/news/1991167035_1_university-of-kentucky-kentucky-mountains-eastern-kentucky
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peestandingup

Quote from: Adam White on August 01, 2016, 11:42:17 AM
Sigh.

Did you choose Appalachia because it's predominantly white? Are you attempting to say something without saying it?

I think you'll find murder rates in rural areas (regardless of the makeup of the population) tend to be lower than those in cities.

There are myriad causes of crime. Here's a nice article you may be interested to read. Or to automatically discount:

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1991-06-16/news/1991167035_1_university-of-kentucky-kentucky-mountains-eastern-kentucky

Are you attempting to knee jerk & put words in my mouth??

If you'd have read (and let it soak into that brain of yours instead of jumping to the usual conclusions), I used it because it's literally the poorest areas in the entire country (and very low murder rates). Something "old man yells at cloud" guy up there was trying to tie in as one of the sole reasons why people kill. Like we should pity them because they can't (or won't) find jobs so they gotta go off someone just because ("it wasn't me, it was societyyyy"). It's fucking stupid & an extremely narrow minded, simplistic point of view to a problem with a ton of different elements (as you pointed out with high populated/density areas being just one).

And yes, I'm standing by my statement that if the races were reversed & the financial backgrounds similar, you wouldn't hear such ridiculous apologist shit uttered on this board, or anywhere else for that matter. You know it & I know it.