Folio's counter to EverBank and Shad Khan

[RattlerGator]

Hopefully those self-aware young trendsetters realize those media boards are more than just stupid scoreboards.

Simms3, those boards represent layer upon layer upon layer of real confidence in this city; not just Downtown, mind you, but the entire city and region. They aren't simply scoreboards and to see them as "stupid" betrays a certain ignorance, the kind of ignorance that was in that Atlanta article. The kind that (like so much of a certain segment of Central and South Florida) not only wants Jacksonville to apologize for being Southern, but to also apologize for not being more like New York, Chicago or San Francisco.

Shad Khan owns the city because Shad Khan has shown ordinary folks in this town that he sees us, and he sees so much more potential here than he realized. More than those folks who have moved here realize and more than those folks who were born and raised here realize.

More, even, than those advisers who told him to go ahead and buy the Jaguars realized.

This feels like our time as a city simms3 and in my honest opinion we could do with a lot less of the disingenuous bitching and moaning that the Folio piece represented. Remain cognizant of the issues, sure, and work toward mitigating them, absolutely, but that piece was tone deaf and absolutely came from the wrong place.

I bought season tickets for the first time ever this year. I'll be coming over from Tallahassee. I was at that Carrie Underwood event with my older sister; she left the area (Orange Park) years ago to attend school up in the Ivy League. She retires in a matter of months and will be moving to Springfield. Like many, we were incredibly proud of our hometown as we watched that "Jacksonville In Motion" video. I don't think I've ever attended a Jacksonville event quite like it. It felt like a genuinely transformational moment, even if it doesn't result in pulling in significantly more A-list events. Maybe you had to be there; maybe you were there and just didn't get the same feeling. Whatever the case, everyone around me seemingly did.

To me, there is clearly a non-apologetic spirit growing in Jacksonville and that's a damn good thing from my perspective. I've never had a problem bragging on this city (or engaging in constructive criticism) when talking with friends and strangers, but I've noticed that quite a few folks from the area do.

Shad Khan isn't going to make everything right in Northeast Florida. But he's clearly a force for good, and he's clearly trying to prod this region forward. And guess what, simms3, he's succeeding! Stupid scoreboards and all. Because he not only gets it (the big picture), he sees it.

We may not be his cup of tea, he may genuinely prefer Chicago and London, etc., and I don't especially care what his politics are -- but the man is not condescending to us. Yes, we're providing one heck of an ego-stroke to him but he's giving something back to us in return. In the best spirit of this MetroJacksonville board, you might want to get on board. I'm anxiously waiting to see what Shad might be able to pull off with The Shipyard's property. I have a feeling it's going to be damn good.

Go Jaguars !!!

[edjax]

Hopefully those self-aware young trendsetters realize those media boards are more than just stupid scoreboards.

Simms3, those boards represent layer upon layer upon layer of real confidence in this city; not just Downtown, mind you, but the entire city and region. They aren't simply scoreboards and to see them as "stupid" betrays a certain ignorance, the kind of ignorance that was in that Atlanta article. The kind that (like so much of a certain segment of Central and South Florida) not only wants Jacksonville to apologize for being Southern, but to also apologize for not being more like New York, Chicago or San Francisco.

Shad Khan owns the city because Shad Khan has shown ordinary folks in this town that he sees us, and he sees so much more potential here than he realized. More than those folks who have moved here realize and more than those folks who were born and raised here realize.

More, even, than those advisers who told him to go ahead and buy the Jaguars realized.

This feels like our time as a city simms3 and in my honest opinion we could do with a lot less of the disingenuous bitching and moaning that the Folio piece represented. Remain cognizant of the issues, sure, and work toward mitigating them, absolutely, but that piece was tone deaf and absolutely came from the wrong place.

I bought season tickets for the first time ever this year. I'll be coming over from Tallahassee. I was at that Carrie Underwood event with my older sister; she left the area (Orange Park) years ago to attend school up in the Ivy League. She retires in a matter of months and will be moving to Springfield. Like many, we were incredibly proud of our hometown as we watched that "Jacksonville In Motion" video. I don't think I've ever attended a Jacksonville event quite like it. It felt like a genuinely transformational moment, even if it doesn't result in pulling in significantly more A-list events. Maybe you had to be there; maybe you were there and just didn't get the same feeling. Whatever the case, everyone around me seemingly did.

To me, there is clearly a non-apologetic spirit growing in Jacksonville and that's a damn good thing from my perspective. I've never had a problem bragging on this city (or engaging in constructive criticism) when talking with friends and strangers, but I've noticed that quite a few folks from the area do.

Shad Khan isn't going to make everything right in Northeast Florida. But he's clearly a force for good, and he's clearly trying to prod this region forward. And guess what, simms3, he's succeeding! Stupid scoreboards and all. Because he not only gets it (the big picture), he sees it.

We may not be his cup of tea, he may genuinely prefer Chicago and London, etc., and I don't especially care what his politics are -- but the man is not condescending to us. Yes, we're providing one heck of an ego-stroke to him but he's giving something back to us in return. In the best spirit of this MetroJacksonville board, you might want to get on board. I'm anxiously waiting to see what Shad might be able to pull off with The Shipyard's property. I have a feeling it's going to be damn good.

Go Jaguars !!!

+1000

And never expect Simms3 to say much of anything positive about the hometown he left.  And if you see other threads he is the expert on all things.  Jax was just too much of a challenge for him I guess.

[Tacachale]

Hopefully those self-aware young trendsetters realize those media boards are more than just stupid scoreboards.

You've got the magazines confused. Folio published the "counter offer" critical of the score boards. Void, the one with the self-aware name, published the positive piece story about it featuring Khan in his Magnum PI costume.

[duvalbill]

+1000

And never expect Simms3 to say much of anything positive about the hometown he left.  And if you see other threads he is the expert on all things.  Jax was just too much of a challenge for him I guess.

He really is awful.

Constantly talks shit about Jacksonville, but posts on this board often.  Maybe one day we can also offer a $97 dollar haircut so we can be as highbrow as he'd like.

[duvalbill]

+1000

And never expect Simms3 to say much of anything positive about the hometown he left.  And if you see other threads he is the expert on all things.  Jax was just too much of a challenge for him I guess.

He really is awful.

Constantly talks shit about Jacksonville, but posts on this board often.  Maybe one day we can also offer a $97 dollar haircut so we can be as highbrow as he'd like.

silly.  Its not like simms isn't telling the truth.  Just because it means that we have to work harder in order to catch up doesn't make it incorrect.

Simms gives a big dose of reality to a lot of people that simply do not know what they are talking about when they start conflating our horrible leadership and progress (suburban sprawl and more garages, but at least we try not to pay our cops, fund our libraries, or update our schools) with what other cities are doing.

I value what he has to say, even if its not very flattering.

Subjectivity is not fact.

it's about the fact that we used any money at all to build these stupid scoreboards when we can never seem to find any money to do what's truly important (or at least what would likely be placed higher on the importance list elsewhere).

The money was used for one of the purposes it was allocated for. Having a state of the art stadium, could help draw more acts which could result in a windfall for the city.  There are no assurances in this world, but the upgrades put is in play for national music acts as well as national sporting events.

Also, FTR, look up Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara.  Those scoreboards are at least as large, so I'm not sure that Jax even has any "claims" on "world's largest scoreboards/videotrons", which is the most stupid record to hold.  So embarassing.  As if attendance will somehow skyrocket, even pulling in tourists to see this new world class example of technology.  Lol.

Again, it appears that some delight in failings simply to be correct. 

I'm surprised his arm isn't constantly in a sling with the way he pats himself on the back.

[edjax]

+1000

And never expect Simms3 to say much of anything positive about the hometown he left.  And if you see other threads he is the expert on all things.  Jax was just too much of a challenge for him I guess.

He really is awful.

Constantly talks shit about Jacksonville, but posts on this board often.  Maybe one day we can also offer a $97 dollar haircut so we can be as highbrow as he'd like.

silly.  Its not like simms isn't telling the truth.  Just because it means that we have to work harder in order to catch up doesn't make it incorrect.

Simms gives a big dose of reality to a lot of people that simply do not know what they are talking about when they start conflating our horrible leadership and progress (suburban sprawl and more garages, but at least we try not to pay our cops, fund our libraries, or update our schools) with what other cities are doing.

I value what he has to say, even if its not very flattering.

I am sure many value his message and I do also.  However there are times where his message gets lost in his manner of conveyance.

[JeffreyS]

+1000

And never expect Simms3 to say much of anything positive about the hometown he left.  And if you see other threads he is the expert on all things.  Jax was just too much of a challenge for him I guess.

He really is awful.

Constantly talks shit about Jacksonville, but posts on this board often.  Maybe one day we can also offer a $97 dollar haircut so we can be as highbrow as he'd like.

It never seems like talking shit from Simms to me. He seems very informed and just clearly states what he thinks.  I get how it can be tiresome to be compared to San Francisco over and over though.

[funwithteeth]

A guy who pays that much for a haircut is just

[edjax]

Come on guys. You have to admit it is pretty impressive to tell everyone you can afford to pay that much for a a haircut! So he has pretty hair and $$$. 

[I-10east]

I'm no longer reading Folio again. I'm using EU and others for a decent read.

[I-10east]

+1000

And never expect Simms3 to say much of anything positive about the hometown he left.  And if you see other threads he is the expert on all things.  Jax was just too much of a challenge for him I guess.

He really is awful.

Constantly talks shit about Jacksonville, but posts on this board often.  Maybe one day we can also offer a $97 dollar haircut so we can be as highbrow as he'd like.

+100

[spuwho]

There is something ironic in a magazine about an area's lifestyle and culture called "Void".

It really did not occur to me until yesterday what a terrible name it is for that kind of publication.

I thought you would catch that before I did. I even was going to mention you, "where's Teeth on this?"

[simms3]

Wow.  Touchy feely.  I am clearly not alone in my sentiments, or my delivery, if someone is writing this Folio Weekly article or that Creative Loafing article to be published for all to read.  The fact that so many here have turned out to disagree with the article and hate on people who agree with it affirms my own personal beliefs, opinions, and feelings toward certain matters (so call me a snob).

Also, for those who criticize the fact that I referenced what I pay for a haircut, IN ANOTHER THREAD, to point out that things are inherently more expensive in cities with high rents (i.e. food in NYC because people have to be PAID to afford to be within commuting distance) need to LEARN:

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2014/02/28/what-america-pays-for-a-haircut

SF averages $49 for men's and $73 for women's haircuts in the city in 2013.  2014 is likely higher, I live closer into the city than most, and I am a young professional (who happens to have very difficult, fine straight hair and cowlicks).  Boo ya BITCHES.  Just because it's acceptable to go to some shit barber or Supercuts in Jax and pay $10 doesn't mean that's even a possibility in some other places, or that it ends up well for those who care about getting a decent cut and looking good.

And so I was wrong about Levi's Stadium.  It's only the 5th largest scoreboard for football stadiums, Everbank being the largest.  Thanks for clarifying that very important piece of information.  I am glad the city found a way to support Khan to have the largest scoreboards in the NFL.  That's certainly a benefit to citizens and makes the city a better place.

Have a great weekend, ya'll!

[benfranklinbof]

I like the screen at the stadium it brightens up the sky at night lol (I hate football) My lady cuts my hair so I don't have to waste money at a salon/barber. I think I have a pretty snazzy hipster hair cut going on lol

[funwithteeth]

It's y'all, simms. Y'all.