Folio's counter to EverBank and Shad Khan

[edjax]

so did the tax money magically appear?  It grew on trees?

Isn't that where all tax money comes from?  You know the tax money that subsidies mass transit and the arts.

Oops actually it is not the same tree my bad.  As it is my money I pay in taxes that support these items. Since I don't stay in hotels in Duval County none of my money went toward the bed tax.

[TheCat]

I don't understand why Folio waited until after the unveiling of the scoreboards to put this article out. We all knew this was definitely going to happen. At this point it's like bitching about something that you aren't going to change. I don't think there's a 90 day return policy on the scoreboards. Maybe the upgrades to Everbank can steal some of the amazing shows that always seem to go to St. Augustine this days instead of Jax. I'm sure St. Augustine didn't NEED to spend the 8.7 million dollars to renovate the amphitheatre, but it definitely seems that they are reaping the benefits of the luxury of having such a nice venue.

It's like bitching to consider how city money is spent? If we did more of this bitching we'd probably have a very healthy city.

[MEGATRON]

I don't understand why Folio waited until after the unveiling of the scoreboards to put this article out. We all knew this was definitely going to happen. At this point it's like bitching about something that you aren't going to change. I don't think there's a 90 day return policy on the scoreboards. Maybe the upgrades to Everbank can steal some of the amazing shows that always seem to go to St. Augustine this days instead of Jax. I'm sure St. Augustine didn't NEED to spend the 8.7 million dollars to renovate the amphitheatre, but it definitely seems that they are reaping the benefits of the luxury of having such a nice venue.

your problem is trying to understand Folio.

[edjax]

I don't understand why Folio waited until after the unveiling of the scoreboards to put this article out. We all knew this was definitely going to happen. At this point it's like bitching about something that you aren't going to change. I don't think there's a 90 day return policy on the scoreboards. Maybe the upgrades to Everbank can steal some of the amazing shows that always seem to go to St. Augustine this days instead of Jax. I'm sure St. Augustine didn't NEED to spend the 8.7 million dollars to renovate the amphitheatre, but it definitely seems that they are reaping the benefits of the luxury of having such a nice venue.

your problem is trying to understand Folio.

Or actually reading Folio.

[thelakelander]

7.) Restore the Emerald Necklace. I'd be for this if it was something from Jacksonville's past but the city doesn't keep up it's existing parks why add an additional 8 miles of parks around downtown.

I don't have a dog in this fight but I do want to correct history here.  Isn't the Emerald Necklace essentially turning Hogans and McCoys Creek into useable green linear green space and clean waterways that are tied together with the riverwalk?  Both of these spaces where originally grand urban parks from the City Beautiful movement that have been ignored by the city for so long, we've forgotten they actually existed.



My metrojacksonville.com/history/ infomercial is over. We now continue with regularly scheduled programming on the validity of having the world's largest video boards in Everbank Field....

[JeffreyS]

I don't understand why Folio waited until after the unveiling of the scoreboards to put this article out. We all knew this was definitely going to happen. At this point it's like bitching about something that you aren't going to change. I don't think there's a 90 day return policy on the scoreboards. Maybe the upgrades to Everbank can steal some of the amazing shows that always seem to go to St. Augustine this days instead of Jax. I'm sure St. Augustine didn't NEED to spend the 8.7 million dollars to renovate the amphitheatre, but it definitely seems that they are reaping the benefits of the luxury of having such a nice venue.

It's like bitching to consider how city money is spent? If we did more of this bitching we'd probably have a very healthy city.

No that solves nothing, if Folio wanted to advocate for how this money should have been spent they should have down so when the correct tense was "how this money will be spent".

This was just a lazy hack job trying to poop on the big reveal's parade.

[civil42806]

so did the tax money magically appear?  It grew on trees?

Isn't that where it all comes from

[tufsu1]

10.) Extend the Skyway. $40 million per mile?  Yeah, follow that yellow brick road.  Will it run on the weekends?  Will it be free or do we have to pay?  If we pay, will the turnstiles work?  Will there be a JTA person working the booth to make change or open the gate if it's broken?  Will homeless sit and ride it all day long to beat the heat?

Interesting....the video boards will get seen directly by about 800,000 people in 2014....meanwhile the Skyway will directly serve over 1 million riders in 2014....yet one is a good use of $40 million and the other is a waste.

[bill]

10.) Extend the Skyway. $40 million per mile?  Yeah, follow that yellow brick road.  Will it run on the weekends?  Will it be free or do we have to pay?  If we pay, will the turnstiles work?  Will there be a JTA person working the booth to make change or open the gate if it's broken?  Will homeless sit and ride it all day long to beat the heat?

Interesting....the video boards will get seen directly by about 800,000 people in 2014....meanwhile the Skyway will directly serve over 1 million riders in 2014....yet one is a good use of $40 million and the other is a waste.

1 mm seriously? get to 10k and then we can discuss

[civil42806]

10.) Extend the Skyway. $40 million per mile?  Yeah, follow that yellow brick road.  Will it run on the weekends?  Will it be free or do we have to pay?  If we pay, will the turnstiles work?  Will there be a JTA person working the booth to make change or open the gate if it's broken?  Will homeless sit and ride it all day long to beat the heat?

Interesting....the video boards will get seen directly by about 800,000 people in 2014....meanwhile the Skyway will directly serve over 1 million riders in 2014....yet one is a good use of $40 million and the other is a waste.

the skyway riderside is 1 million people?  Is that people that actually rode it, from what i can tell thats an impossible number to find.  Or is that the theortical number that could have rode it?  Just because I looked at that outdated monstrosity for years back in the late 90's doesnt mean I was served by it.

[thelakelander]

Yes, the skyway gets over 1 million riders annually. After all, it averages something like 4,000 riders/day.  Add that up over 365 days and you'll pass 1 million easily.

[Charles Hunter]

Since they don't run weekends, more like 250 days ... but at 4,000 trips a day, that is still 1,000,000 in a year.

[civil42806]

Who says so?  No saturdays or sundays?  can anyone actually give an accurate ridership number?  .

[thelakelander]

The Jacksonville Business Journal has a different take on this matter:

Editor's Notebook: Fire up those scoreboards, fire up a city

Ok, I admit it, I was wrong.

I've never been a fan of the city kicking in $43 million to help build the world's biggest video boards and swimming pools at EverBank Field. In the long list of upgrades that the city could spend $43 million for, such frivolities were not high on my list.

Better schools, a cleaner river, upgraded public parks and libraries – these were the types of needs I thought had higher value.

Sexy? Not really. Of use to the people of Jacksonville? Absolutely.

But let's shed the moral compass argument for a minute.

Are people excited about the scoreboards that debuted Saturday night at the stadium? Heck, yeah. Folks at my church were buzzing Sunday morning, and it wasn't over the sermon (and it was a better than average sermon).

Does Jacksonville need to feel better about itself? Yes, it does.

Full article: http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/blog/2014/07/editors-notebookfire-up-those-scoreboards-fire-up.html

[jaxjaguar]

Who says so?  No saturdays or sundays?  can anyone actually give an accurate ridership number?  .

Even though you don't have to pay you still have to walk through a turnstile.