Jacksonville's Next Historic District: Brooklyn?

[Tacachale]

No.

[thelakelander]

No. Just about every neighborhood in Jax happens to be a neighborhood name in a number of other cities across the country and vise versa.

[Scrub Palmetto]

What are the protections offered by this designation, assuming this is to be a local historic district? I'm mostly familiar with the National Register, which mostly offers incentives and protects against threats using federal funds, but local level designation can be anything from merely honorific to even more protective than federal, and I'm not particularly familiar with where on the spectrum Jax's local historic districts/landmarks lie.

[JaxUnicorn]

What are the protections offered by this designation, assuming this is to be a local historic district? I'm mostly familiar with the National Register, which mostly offers incentives and protects against threats using federal funds, but local level designation can be anything from merely honorific to even more protective than federal, and I'm not particularly familiar with where on the spectrum Jax's local historic districts/landmarks lie.

Well if the protection is anything like what Springfield has been afforded, nothing.  Springfield has lost well over 400 historic structures since becoming a Nationally recognized Historic District.

[loadking]

This historic idea for Brooklyn is all being done to satisfy one or two homeowners who do not want to see their houses demolished in favor of new construction ,......... Now I do understand they have a long history while being there but ,    time changes everthing and it is simple this area is already 99% demolished already , just let it turn commercial and sell the property for a million dollars and go buy another house and live a comfortable life ,.........Memories never go away

[thelakelander]

To be honest, the area they carved out is so small (two blocks), it shouldn't have much impact on new development. The mix of old and new could end up being a pretty cool result.

[sheclown]

What are the protections offered by this designation, assuming this is to be a local historic district? I'm mostly familiar with the National Register, which mostly offers incentives and protects against threats using federal funds, but local level designation can be anything from merely honorific to even more protective than federal, and I'm not particularly familiar with where on the spectrum Jax's local historic districts/landmarks lie.

Joel spoke to this at Monday night's Urban Core CPAC meeting.  Apparently, the local designation is where the certificate of appropriateness requirement comes in.

[sheclown]

The residents of Brooklyn voted against the designation.  Results were discussed at last night's HPC meeting.  I wasn't there, but perhaps someone can give more details.

[thelakelander]

Interesting. I know this should make a few developers in the area happy.

[strider]

From memory, there something like 30 to 40 ballots sent out to property owners.  Only 19 were returned to be counted.  Many were not received by the owners, possibly due to incorrect addresses in the data base.  Of the 19 counted, 8 were for the designation and 11 against.  Under ordinance, that meant the process stopped and the HPC simply accepted the vote by property owners with the majority saying no to the designation. 

Unfortunate, but not really surprising.  Most do not understand the meaning of being in a historic District and just see the issue of being told what to do with your land.  I guess it could be brought up for a vote again, but it will take some time and a more organized effort to get passed. Like people will have to correct addresses with the city as from what I was told about the CPAC meeting, more than enough wanted this, it was probably more a lack of organization and knowledge of how the process worked that caused the failure.  But just my opinion based on the info I have been given.

[MEGATRON]

Most do not understand the meaning of being in a historic District and just see the issue of being told what to do with your land.

Their understanding is somewhat accurate.

[Coolyfett]

Does anyone else cringe when they hear people talking about "Brooklyn" in Jacksonville  just because it draws comparison to "other" Brooklyn in NYC?

ummmm What?

[TheCat]

Does anyone else cringe when they hear people talking about "Brooklyn" in Jacksonville  just because it draws comparison to "other" Brooklyn in NYC?

ummmm What?