We Love Avondale Attempts to Ruin Christmas Event

Started by Metro Jacksonville, December 03, 2012, 12:38:10 PM

kreger

I can't wait for Springfield to have this same issue. Bah Humbug!

JaxDiablo

Not sure if my reply was considered combative, but they were legitimate questions concerning the standing order of things in the area of the Shoppes.  I'm trying to figure out why someone who is a business owner feels that another business owner should be stymied in their attempt to open a business. 

"I only take a drink on two occasions: when I'm thirsty and when I'm not." - Brendan Behan

If_I_Loved_you

Quote from: MEGATRON on December 13, 2012, 02:50:03 PM
Quote from: Dennis on December 13, 2012, 02:04:13 PM

PS. I applaud Jim Love for his courage in involving himself in this controversy.
LMAO.  Its his friggin' job and he is doing a very poor job of it.
Mr. Love is also a great Insurance man and a True Blue Ex-Navy pilot? I have know Mr. Love and he has had my business since 2006 and for you to say he is doing a "very poor job as a city councilman" is your right but your Wrong!

funguy

I would like to thank Diane Melendez for the eloquence with which she states MM’s position.. I am sure once MM opens she will be an honored guest.
It is with feelings tinged with melancholy that I ask you again,
”when is enough enough”?
Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference

thelakelander

#169
Enough of what? Pizza, residents, WLA antics, what? You'll never get whatever you desire being that vague with a land use issue. This whole thing is being played out as effectively as nailing jello to the wall.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

cline

Quote from: Dennis on December 14, 2012, 07:44:37 AM
I would like to thank Diane Melendez for the eloquence with which she states MM’s position.. I am sure once MM opens she will be an honored guest.
It is with feelings tinged with melancholy that I ask you again,
”when is enough enough”?


Sorry, but you can't penalize the last person in just because you feel like you've had enough.  That's not fair and that's not how it works.  There are other spaces in the Shoppes that are going to eventually become something else (Monty's comes to mind) and they might very well be a bar or restaurant.  Do you plan on mounting this fight from now on whenever a new place wants to come in?

funguy

Quote from: cline on December 14, 2012, 08:42:54 AM
Quote from: Dennis on December 14, 2012, 07:44:37 AM
I would like to thank Diane Melendez for the eloquence with which she states MM’s position.. I am sure once MM opens she will be an honored guest.
It is with feelings tinged with melancholy that I ask you again,
”when is enough enough”?


Sorry, but you can't penalize the last person in just because you feel like you've had enough.  That's not fair and that's not how it works.  There are other spaces in the Shoppes that are going to eventually become something else (Monty's comes to mind) and they might very well be a bar or restaurant.  Do you plan on mounting this fight from now on whenever a new place wants to come in?

I am pleased you understand the question...:)
Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference

thelakelander

At what point will there start to be a serious fight for the implementation of mobility solutions for a neighborhood not designed for every resident and business to have multiple cars on the street? 

As long as the commercial area remains commercial, there will always be the possibility of redevelopment and more density in according to what that particular zoning regulation will allow.  Some uses, both residential and commercial, will end up impacting mobility more than others. 
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Tacachale

Reminds me of Jax Beach. The oceanfront was once home to a vibrant amusement park with a roller coaster, ferris wheel, and other fair-style attractions along the boardwalk buildings. By the 1980s, though the rides and many of the buildings had been torn down, and the place was deathly quiet except for a few beach bars and the wind picking over the empty lots.

The downtown area was revitalized in the 1990s, with a lot of new construction, new hotels and residences, and many new restaurants and bars. However, some of the residents had grown accustomed to the deathly silence and, Grinch-like, opposed all the new NOISE NOISE NOISE NOISE. These were people who had moved adjacent to a long-established commercial and nightlife area that once had an amusement park on it.

"When is enough enough", they said.

If we listened to everyone who says that, there would be no nightlife anywhere in NE Florida.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

funguy

Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference

Captain Zissou

Quote from: Dennis on December 14, 2012, 07:44:37 AM
I would like to thank Diane Melendez for the eloquence with which she states MM’s position.. I am sure once MM opens she will be an honored guest.
It is with feelings tinged with melancholy that I ask you again,
”when is enough enough”?

Quote from: Dennis on December 14, 2012, 09:44:50 AM
Fight is such a strong word!

Did North Miami/Know Growth move to St Johns Avenue??

If_I_Loved_you

Quote from: stephendare on December 14, 2012, 03:57:33 AM
Quote from: If_I_Loved_you on December 13, 2012, 11:26:30 PM
Quote from: MEGATRON on December 13, 2012, 02:50:03 PM
Quote from: Dennis on December 13, 2012, 02:04:13 PM

PS. I applaud Jim Love for his courage in involving himself in this controversy.
LMAO.  Its his friggin' job and he is doing a very poor job of it.
Mr. Love is also a great Insurance man and a True Blue Ex-Navy pilot? I have know Mr. Love and he has had my business since 2006 and for you to say he is doing a "very poor job as a city councilman" is your right but your Wrong!

He is doing a very poor job as a city councilman in this respect.

What are his achievements as councilperson IILY?
Getting involved and winning his first seat as a councilman and the moratorium. http://residentnews.net/2012/05/30/qa-district-14-city-councilman-jim-love-riversideavondale-development-moratorium/ Lets be honest Stephen parking is a major problem in Avondale/Riverside. I drive thru Avondale/Riverside several times day and night. Sure it's the holidays but when they are over parking is still a bitch during most of the day unless you eat late? The moratorium has slowed everything down and this is good. Look I'm still with MM coming to the Shoppes of Avondale unlike weloveavondale and rap. Stephen you're a smart person and if you make the city council in 2015 you have got to be honest not Everything you do is going to make Everyone happy.  ;)

Gators312

Quote from: If_I_Loved_you on December 14, 2012, 11:16:46 AM
Quote from: stephendare on December 14, 2012, 03:57:33 AM
Quote from: If_I_Loved_you on December 13, 2012, 11:26:30 PM
Quote from: MEGATRON on December 13, 2012, 02:50:03 PM
Quote from: Dennis on December 13, 2012, 02:04:13 PM

PS. I applaud Jim Love for his courage in involving himself in this controversy.
LMAO.  Its his friggin' job and he is doing a very poor job of it.
Mr. Love is also a great Insurance man and a True Blue Ex-Navy pilot? I have know Mr. Love and he has had my business since 2006 and for you to say he is doing a "very poor job as a city councilman" is your right but your Wrong!

He is doing a very poor job as a city councilman in this respect.

What are his achievements as councilperson IILY?
Getting involved and winning his first seat as a councilman and the moratorium. http://residentnews.net/2012/05/30/qa-district-14-city-councilman-jim-love-riversideavondale-development-moratorium/ Lets be honest Stephen parking is a major problem in Avondale/Riverside. I drive thru Avondale/Riverside several times day and night. Sure it's the holidays but when they are over parking is still a bitch during most of the day unless you eat late? The moratorium has slowed everything down and this is good. Look I'm still with MM coming to the Shoppes of Avondale unlike weloveavondale and rap. Stephen you're a smart person and if you make the city council in 2015 you have got to be honest not Everything you do is going to make Everyone happy.  ;)

The moratorium was a knee jerk reaction and poorly written.  A piece of legislation like this is bad for business growth which is what creates much needed jobs.    At no time has RAP, WLA, The merchants association or Mr. Love, proposed any proactive measures to mitigate the perceived parking issues.  There are many ways to address the concerns of the neighborhood without putting the kibosh on organic business growth. 



cline

QuoteThe moratorium has slowed everything down and this is good.

What exactly has the moratorium slowed down?

If_I_Loved_you

Quote from: cline on December 14, 2012, 11:34:15 AM
QuoteThe moratorium has slowed everything down and this is good.

What exactly has the moratorium slowed down?
Mr Love said it best "I, like most business owners and residents, want a smart plan to carry us forward into the future balancing the needs of businesses and the residents living in the historic district."