Rape the will of God?

[Cheshire Cat]

Rape is an act of violence.  Does this man who claims a believe in God believe that God sanctions violence against women?  Breathtaking!  This message courtesy of Republican Candidate for Senate Murdock.



http://www.wlky.com/news/politics/Senate-candidate-s-comment-about-abortion-and-rape-cause-shock-controversy/-/9365900/17109472/-/gu60de/-/index.html



Diane Melendez

[JeffreyS]

Not just the will of God but a Gift fro God. Even a woman's ability to have her body reject pregnancy from legitament rape can't over come the will of God. At least it is a good thing no harm can come to the mother during pregnancy.

Where do Republicans get their wacky ideas.

[If_I_Loved_you]

Rape is an act of violence.  Does this man who claims a believe in God believe that God sanctions violence against women?  Breathtaking!  This message courtesy of Republican Candidate for Senate Murdock.



http://www.wlky.com/news/politics/Senate-candidate-s-comment-about-abortion-and-rape-cause-shock-controversy/-/9365900/17109472/-/gu60de/-/index.html



Diane Melendez

I heard this on NPR today and was shocked that this IDIOT would say such BS! He doesn't know my God.

[Cheshire Cat]

The fall out continues.  The television ad with Romney supporting Murdock will not be taken off the air according to his reps.  I find this to be amazing.  On another note, a female Senator that was to have campaigned for Murdock announced she would not be doing so and has pulled her support.  Good on her.

http://www.dailyfreeman.com/articles/2012/10/24/news/doc5087d2dc07443695635277.txt

[ben says]

I think the guy is a heinous asshole.

But, really, has anyone here read the bible? Rape is more or less condoned. His god may not be "your god," but it's selective reading of the same damn book.

[Cheshire Cat]

What is breathtaking in my view is that fact that this fellow believes rape (i.e. violence on women)  is a gift.  The man is insane IMO. 

[buckethead]

The only exception I have to have an abortion is in that case of the life of the mother. I struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realize that life is a gift from god and I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that god intended to happen,” said Mourdock.

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You're butchering his remarks. Not that I agree or disagree with them. How the hell am I supposed to know the will of God? I've asked, and have yet to get an email, a text, a smoke signal..... nada. (I'd settle for a voice in my head. I love and admire Joan of Arc)

That said, he commented that life created is the will of God... not the rape.

"The audacity... Buckethead.... How can you defend such a heinous statement from an evil tyrant?"

Well... in a previous life I was Satan. I know the response of a Christian as well as any atheist:

"All things are not good, but God can use all things for good."

No, friends... I don't agree with his statement, but neither am I all aghast over it.

[Cheshire Cat]

buckethead, you always speak your mind. lol  Whatever this poor fool meant he would have been much wiser to have kept his mouth shut.   After a bit a woman gets very tired of hearing men wax poetic about rape. 

[fsquid]

dumb comment, just dumb.

[buckethead]

Well I find rape to be quite rude. I never abide rudeness. (Even Satan is well mannered)

Being a father of four lovely daughters, I share your hatred for any violence against women and/or girls. I don't think this guy is attempting such, nor is he condoning it. He is certainly not waxing poetic about rape, but he is a bit cavalier about one of the potential results of rape and the fact that the victim has rights and a will of her own. (A fact his zealotry has blinded him to) For this, I would join you in voting against him, but I won't join in condemning his soul to hell. (Yeah... I'm a softy as Satan... Prolly why they ran me out of that joint)

(You might have heard that Kansas City has the best BBQ... Not true... That distinction belongs to Hades.)

There is an argument to be made that a US citizen exists prior to said citizen's exit of the birth canal. If this is true, that citizen should be protected by the constitution.... Life, liberty and the pursuit of cinnabons etc... I think this is his point, although he uses religious vernacular to make it.

[If_I_Loved_you]

I think the guy is a heinous asshole.

But, really, has anyone here read the bible? Rape is more or less condoned. His god may not be "your god," but it's selective reading of the same damn book.

So is five people seeing a Car Accident? If we all saw the same accident how can five people have different views.

[JeffreyS]

Maybe I could go along with the idea that it's a nuanced position if Republican's who have won primaries in this election cycle hadn't already chimed in to let us know you can't get pregnant from legitimate rape and that in the modern world the mother's life is never in danger from child birth. Along with the God's will gift crap.

No my friend Bucket there are too many who marginalize the pregnant woman and have decided they are better at making her decisions for her.  The nutty statements are just symptoms of their rationalizing that God has put them in charge of their women folk.

[buckethead]

No merit to the notion that at some point during a pregnancy a human/US citizen exists?

Feigning outrage is the easy thing to do here.

[JeffreyS]

It is outrageous to say getting pregnant is a divine appointment that is wholly seperate from the violence going on at conception. The fact that humans can have babies IMO is a merical. The process on how a person becomes pregnant is a product of the people involved's will unless one was raped.

At some point the fetus is a sentient being but health of the mother is the late term option. 

[buckethead]

I would even add that her mental well being as well as her desires are reasons to protect her option to abort.

I'm not a zealot. If.....big if.... a citizen can exist within the womb, then a citizen exists regardless of the circumstances of conception. Again, I'm not saying this is the case, but at the same time, I'm not convinced it isn't.

All that said, I don't want a rapist's baby in my womb. (If I had a womb).... and it would be my baby as well... a tough frikkin spot in which to find one's self.

So... I have definitely convinced myself that Abortion is okay in any case of rape. (Not that it was difficult) What I haven't convinced myself is whether in doing so I have violated the rights of another US citizen.