Rape the will of God?

[Timkin]

This guy is delusional at best.   Perhaps he should get raped himself and he might have a different view.  Scum bucket.

[buckethead]

“It is better to open your eyes and say you don't understand, than to close your eyes and say you don't believe.”

                               -The Wizard

[funwithteeth]

Good to know Ben Roethlisberger was only ever doing the Lord's work.

[Cheshire Cat]

Colbert says it best!  Hope you will watch.

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/420541/october-24-2012/richard-mourdock-s-rape-com








Diane M.

[Adam W]

I support abortion rights, so I want to make that clear from the outset. And I also believe rape is a crime.

But let's be honest here: this guy is probably one of the first honest pro-life politicians I've come across. He is actually being consistent with his beliefs. You cannot believe that life is sacred and oppose abortion and then make an exception in cases of rape or incest, as many so-called "pro-lifers" seem to. It's not the fault of the "unborn child" if it was conceived by rape or incest. If abortion is murder, then aborting the product of rape is murder.

This guy's comments clearly seem to indicate (to me, at least) that the will of God or whatever is that life is created. Not that women are raped. I can see the outrage, but I think it is misplaced. People are going after him for the wrong reasons - he shouldn't be criticized for his comments about rape (he stated in his initial comments that rape was "horrible" or something like that), but should be held up as an example of what it means to be pro-life and how views like his could potentially shape the country.

It's easier for some people to swallow the notion of pro-life politics when they have "escape clauses" for things like rape or incest. But those really are all smoke and mirrors - life is life.

I applaud this guy for at least being honest and not sugar-coating his stance on abortion. I just wish people weren't being distracted by knee-jerk reactions to the word "rape."

[JeffreyS]

So God is sitting back thinking when should I give this woman this wonderful gift.  I want to get this just right so she will always remember getting it.

I guess the "gift" is also a gift to the father as what a reward for his actions?

God gave humans the gift of being able to have children but the conception results from choices of our free will.

It is gross to pin rape as a gift giving occasion which is exactly where the candidates logic takes you.

[Adam W]

So God is sitting back thinking when should I give this woman this wonderful gift.  I want to get this just right so she will always remember getting it.

I guess the "gift" is also a gift to the father as what a reward for his actions?

God gave humans the gift of being able to have children but the conception results from choices of our free will.

It is gross to pin rape as a gift giving occasion which is exactly where the candidates logic takes you.

Well, as "God" is most likely a complete figment of our imaginations, it's probably all academic anyway.

And he isn't "pinning rape as a gift-giving occasion" he even said it was a "horrible situation". But he said that life is a gift from God. I'm not excusing his logic or his words - I'm just saying people are bridging two separate issues here. If you read his comments, he's basically saying that he is opposed to abortion, even in cases of rape, because he views life as a gift from God, even when that life is created in the "horrible situation" of rape.

[JeffreyS]

He's not trying to say it is a gift giving occasion but that is what he is actually saying.  I can understand the sentiment that it is still a life no matter what but God's will or gift that it happen during a rape nauseating.

[Adam W]

Religion is not compatible with the modern world. People like to pick and choose what parts of christianity (or whatever religion) they wish to follow based on how well those bits of the religion fit with their lives. They decide what parts of the bible they wish to interpret literally and which bits they decide to view as being parables or allegories.

That's how they take something that's utterly ridiculous and essentially psychotic and make it "work" in the 21st century.

So people are bothered by what this guy said for two reasons: either because it repulses them as people (and they are offended by the notion that a woman would or should be forced to bring a child to term against her will, especially if she was raped) or because it forces them to confront the notion that their own "spiritual" beliefs or approach to their religion are nothing more than a bunch of bullshit.

[ben says]

Religion is not compatible with the modern world. People like to pick and choose what parts of christianity (or whatever religion) they wish to follow based on how well those bits of the religion fit with their lives. They decide what parts of the bible they wish to interpret literally and which bits they decide to view as being parables or allegories.

That's how they take something that's utterly ridiculous and essentially psychotic and make it "work" in the 21st century.

So people are bothered by what this guy said for two reasons: either because it repulses them as people (and they are offended by the notion that a woman would or should be forced to bring a child to term against her will, especially if she was raped) or because it forces them to confront the notion that their own "spiritual" beliefs or approach to their religion are nothing more than a bunch of bullshit.

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Most refreshing thing I've read all day.

[Springfielder]

I applaud this guy for at least being honest and not sugar-coating his stance on abortion. I just wish people weren't being distracted by knee-jerk reactions to the word "rape."

knee-jerk reaction to the word rape...really. I'd say there's one hell of a valid reason for the reaction. Have you ever been raped, any family members...friends? If so, then you'd better appreciate the reason for the reaction

[If_I_Loved_you]

Religion is not compatible with the modern world. People like to pick and choose what parts of christianity (or whatever religion) they wish to follow based on how well those bits of the religion fit with their lives. They decide what parts of the bible they wish to interpret literally and which bits they decide to view as being parables or allegories.

That's how they take something that's utterly ridiculous and essentially psychotic and make it "work" in the 21st century.

So people are bothered by what this guy said for two reasons: either because it repulses them as people (and they are offended by the notion that a woman would or should be forced to bring a child to term against her will, especially if she was raped) or because it forces them to confront the notion that their own "spiritual" beliefs or approach to their religion are nothing more than a bunch of bullshit.

"because it forces them to confront the notion that their own "spiritual" beliefs or approach to their religion are nothing more than a bunch of bullshit." Who screwed you up in believing there is no God? Not knowing your age when you were a child did you believe in God? I'm in peace knowing that God is with me each and everyday. 

[Adam W]

I applaud this guy for at least being honest and not sugar-coating his stance on abortion. I just wish people weren't being distracted by knee-jerk reactions to the word "rape."

knee-jerk reaction to the word rape...really. I'd say there's one hell of a valid reason for the reaction. Have you ever been raped, any family members...friends? If so, then you'd better appreciate the reason for the reaction

You're missing my point. People are focusing on the word 'rape' and thinking it is what he is saying is the 'gift from god' or whatever. But that's not what he's saying at all.

To answer your question: No, I've not been raped. As a man, it's not impossible to be raped, but it's less likely. I've had family members and close friends who've been raped, though. Obviously, that's about as much as I'd ever want to discuss about that.

[Adam W]

Not knowing your age when you were a child did you believe in God?

I don't understand the question. Can you clarify?

[If_I_Loved_you]

I applaud this guy for at least being honest and not sugar-coating his stance on abortion. I just wish people weren't being distracted by knee-jerk reactions to the word "rape."

knee-jerk reaction to the word rape...really. I'd say there's one hell of a valid reason for the reaction. Have you ever been raped, any family members...friends? If so, then you'd better appreciate the reason for the reaction

You're missing my point. People are focusing on the word 'rape' and thinking it is what he is saying is the 'gift from god' or whatever. But that's not what he's saying at all.

To answer your question: No, I've not been raped. As a man, it's not impossible to be raped, but it's less likely. I've had family members and close friends who've been raped, though. Obviously, that's about as much as I'd ever want to discuss about that.

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Most men would say, with physiological confidence, that if a man doesn't want to have sex, he can't be tied down and forced. Human anatomy provides him a special protection. But there are sex therapists who dispute this notion; some point to "masochistic titillation," while others speculate that panic, along with fear of bodily...



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