The Jacksonville Jaguars

Started by Non-RedNeck Westsider, October 11, 2011, 04:20:42 PM

WarDamJagFan

Very frustrating to watch. This franchise was absolutely choke slammed by the incompetence of Gene Smith. Starting the equivalent of an expansion team without the usual help of extra draft picks and free agent transactions to compensate means this rebuild is going to be long and painful. The young players show promise on plays, and typical rookie errors on others. That's to be expected. I honestly feel we are on the right track, but you just have to keep reminding yourself to keep your expectations realistic during the process.

I'll truly begin to worry if by this time next year, we are still looking like a bottom feeder.


fsquid

Peter King wrote in his MMQB that the Jags make $6.7 million more from this London game than if the game was played here in town.

I-10east

^^^That could be said for the other cities that gave up a home game to London as well, but of course King prefer his agenda to be "Jags moving to London" like every other national media hack that I hate...

fsquid

Quote from: I-10east on November 10, 2014, 10:46:57 AM
^^^That could be said for the other cities that gave up a home game to London as well, but of course King prefer his agenda to be "Jags moving to London" like every other national media hack that I hate...

yes, but it was Jacksonville who gave up the game yesterday.  so its timely

Non-RedNeck Westsider

There have been 2 other teams that gave up a home game in London this year. 

Just for argument's sake, has anyone compiled any numbers to compare the difference their compensation was compared to a 'normal' home game?

I'll check back in a few months to see if anyone's made some headway.
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KenFSU

Two of the main takeaways from Khan's media rounds over the weekend were that a) Khan is interested in extending the London home game beyond the existing four-year commitment, and b) Khan is not interested in more than one home game in London per year.

I'm curious, does anyone have a major problem with the London game becoming a regular thing, with the understanding that it is one game only per year?

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: KenFSU on November 10, 2014, 11:35:30 AM
I'm curious, does anyone have a major problem with the London game becoming a regular thing, with the understanding that it is one game only per year?

Not at all.  Too many are trying extremely hard to read between the lines to fit the narrative in their head rather than just take what's being said at face value.  Which is funny, because to date, everything that Kahn has said would happen has happened, so I'm still not sure where the lack of trust is coming from.

I'll explain better when I have an opportunity.
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dp8541

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on November 10, 2014, 11:55:55 AM
Quote from: KenFSU on November 10, 2014, 11:35:30 AM
I'm curious, does anyone have a major problem with the London game becoming a regular thing, with the understanding that it is one game only per year?

Not at all.  Too many are trying extremely hard to read between the lines to fit the narrative in their head rather than just take what's being said at face value.  Which is funny, because to date, everything that Kahn has said would happen has happened, so I'm still not sure where the lack of trust is coming from.

I'll explain better when I have an opportunity.

The only problem I have with having one home game a year in London is the competitive disadvantage for the team.  Granted this year it would not have mattered whether we played the Cowboys in London or Jax, but moving forward when the team is hopefully more competitive, losing one true home game each year places a team at a pretty substantial disadvantage.

FSBA

I think the London games are a bit of a fool's errand. I understand why the NFL is doing it. The league has exploded in popularity in the UK since the games have started. But for one team to try and corner the London market is a folly.

I think the Jaguars would be better served moving a preseason game to Daytona International Speedway or the renovated Citrus Bowl.
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edjax

Quote from: dp8541 on November 10, 2014, 12:01:26 PM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on November 10, 2014, 11:55:55 AM
Quote from: KenFSU on November 10, 2014, 11:35:30 AM
I'm curious, does anyone have a major problem with the London game becoming a regular thing, with the understanding that it is one game only per year?

Not at all.  Too many are trying extremely hard to read between the lines to fit the narrative in their head rather than just take what's being said at face value.  Which is funny, because to date, everything that Kahn has said would happen has happened, so I'm still not sure where the lack of trust is coming from.

I'll explain better when I have an opportunity.

The only problem I have with having one home game a year in London is the competitive disadvantage for the team.  Granted this year it would not have mattered whether we played the Cowboys in London or Jax, but moving forward when the team is hopefully more competitive, losing one true home game each year places a team at a pretty substantial disadvantage.

Totally agree with you.  I mean eventually we have to get better, well I am still going at least.  This is my major concern that when it happens this game will come back to bite us big time.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: FSBA on November 10, 2014, 01:56:58 PM
I think the Jaguars would be better served moving a preseason game to Daytona International Speedway or the renovated Citrus Bowl.

How would that better serve the Jags?

An example would be the Suns / Marlins.  Most people who are season ticket holders to the Suns that I know, about 30, guess how many of them are fans of the Marlins?  ZERO

I just don't see how we could generate any interest from the outlying fanbase by charging them to see what amounts to a minor league game.  If you start taking too much away from season ticket holders, you're going to lose the ones you have by giving away product trying to lure more. 

Fortunately for us, we have a central Florida product at QB right now that has the interest down south piqued at a minimum.  If When he starts winning 9-12 games a year and making the team competitive year-in/year-out, we won't need a gimmick to pull from Orlando/Daytona/Melbourne/etc....  We will get the UCF draw because they want to see one of theirs. 

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WarDamJagFan

Winning cures all illnesses. We'll attract the bandwagon fans once we have a consistent winning team. Until we do, the casual observer will continue to ignore the Jags. I say keep the one game a year in London for financial purposes, but once the Jags become consistent playoff contenders, we should have all 8 home games at The Bank.

fsquid

Quote from: FSBA on November 10, 2014, 01:56:58 PM
I think the London games are a bit of a fool's errand. I understand why the NFL is doing it. The league has exploded in popularity in the UK since the games have started. But for one team to try and corner the London market is a folly.

I think the Jaguars would be better served moving a preseason game to Daytona International Speedway or the renovated Citrus Bowl.

avg. ticket of $127 like the Wembley games had?

KenFSU

Just read that the Jags are now the only team in NFL history to start three consecutive seasons 1-9.

Tough pill to swallow.

fsujax

Yeah, the bad news just keeps on piling up.