The Jacksonville Jaguars

[Wacca Pilatka]

what is more simple is to put a product on the field that people want to see.  seems to me the writing of the team sale has been on the wall.  30+ million below the spending limit.  WW lining his pockets with as much cash as possible in the past few years.  the giant profits WW make on the sale.  blaming the city for not supporting the team.  maybe WW needed to support the team before the fans by making good draft choices and giving us something worth watching.  i have only been to three games this season and the ravens game was the least painful to witness.  had free tickets to last monday night's game, passed and am happy i did.  watching blaine scared and in the fetal position on the ground and a no name rookie secondary looking lost is not my idea of fun.  the jags have become embarrassing this season.

New owner:  Take note of what ww has done the past few seasons and do the opposite.  Please give us a team we can be proud of and entertaining to watch!

The no name rookie secondary was the result of injuries to Lowery, Mathis, Cox, and Middleton, not some deliberate choice WW made to save money.

[Wacca Pilatka]

We are actually the only dummies that werent doing it for quite sometime. We are acutally just cacthing on to what other teams have been doing for decades. There were only two games this when that occured. The Bengals game (which Busch also has done this for several team this year, not just us) and the game last night tickets were bought.

Yes, that's for sure.  In fact, before 2010 there was a stat printed that the Jaguars averaged something like 3 tickets per season ticket holder account while all other teams averaged in double digits.  Most teams are heavily reliant on corporate ticket sales. 

Several teams have relied on true smoke-and-mirrors tactics to avoid blackouts, well beyond having corporate partners buy a lot of seats.  The Dolphins and Bucs' owners frequently have bought up large numbers of seats at 34 cents on the dollar to distribute to charities.  San Diego and a few others have had their local TV stations buy up seats to get the games on TV.

[duvaldude08]

We are actually the only dummies that werent doing it for quite sometime. We are acutally just cacthing on to what other teams have been doing for decades. There were only two games this when that occured. The Bengals game (which Busch also has done this for several team this year, not just us) and the game last night tickets were bought.

Yes, that's for sure.  In fact, before 2010 there was a stat printed that the Jaguars averaged something like 3 tickets per season ticket holder account while all other teams averaged in double digits.  Most teams are heavily reliant on corporate ticket sales. 

Several teams have relied on true smoke-and-mirrors tactics to avoid blackouts, well beyond having corporate partners buy a lot of seats.  The Dolphins and Bucs' owners frequently have bought up large numbers of seats at 34 cents on the dollar to distribute to charities.  San Diego and a few others have had their local TV stations buy up seats to get the games on TV.

Ya know Wacca, Ivedecided to let everyone be parnoid and have their doom and gloom theroy. I refused to think like that. Jacksonville and the Jags have always been very modest and low key. Even when the team was at its best, we were still very humble. In turn, we get attacked constantly by the national media and other NFL fans for no appreant reason. We have been drugged through the mud and singled out for a very long time. But I know the man upstairs is looking out for us. We have done NOTHING to deserve the flack we have received. You can mock my words, the changes that took place as of last week are only the start of what is to come.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

This is hard to tell the average fan watcher of football, but stop trying to read more into what's going on right now. 

Fact:  We're totally eliminated from the playoffs.
Fact:  Our Defense, specifically our secondary, is completely decimated by injury.
Fact:  Our QB is not ready.
Fact:  The veterans on our Offense that were supposed to help out the young QB are not having a good year. 

With all the practice squad players and UFAs on the field right now, this team is trying out players for the future.  Don't expect us to go out and start doing anything extraordinary for the rest of the season.

What you should expect to see is Gabbert starting to do the little things a little better each game.  If I'm right, he's going to watch film with Koetter and they are going to focus on 2 maybe 3 minute details that they see he needs work on.  Maybe he's holding the ball a little too low when he drops back.  Maybe he needs to move his hand back on the ball another 1/2" when he gets set to throw.  Maybe his arm slot is falling off with pressure in his face.  Little things that you and I won't see, but will make a big impact down the road when they're habits and not thoughts running through his head.

[duvaldude08]

This is hard to tell the average fan watcher of football, but stop trying to read more into what's going on right now. 

Fact:  We're totally eliminated from the playoffs.
Fact:  Our Defense, specifically our secondary, is completely decimated by injury.
Fact:  Our QB is not ready.
Fact:  The veterans on our Offense that were supposed to help out the young QB are not having a good year. 

With all the practice squad players and UFAs on the field right now, this team is trying out players for the future.  Don't expect us to go out and start doing anything extraordinary for the rest of the season.

What you should expect to see is Gabbert starting to do the little things a little better each game.  If I'm right, he's going to watch film with Koetter and they are going to focus on 2 maybe 3 minute details that they see he needs work on.  Maybe he's holding the ball a little too low when he drops back.  Maybe he needs to move his hand back on the ball another 1/2" when he gets set to throw.  Maybe his arm slot is falling off with pressure in his face.  Little things that you and I won't see, but will make a big impact down the road when they're habits and not thoughts running through his head.

Great post. The game is just a little to fast for Blaine right now. I am anxious to see him next year with full off season and better personnel/coaching. There were two great drives in the SD game and to finally see MJD used in the passing game lowered my blood pressure a bit.( I think I may have burst some blood vessels screaming about this the first 12 games). Lack of check downs has been rather frustrating.

Same here. That first half was awesome. Its honestly the best they played all season. We didnt get a full 4 Q of it, but IMO that showed the effective a coaching change can have. Cecil Shorts is a prime example. He couldnt caught a ball all season and he made an Impossiable TD cacth Monday night! We have a TON of work to, but I do see progress. I think that someone are so bogged down with the negative, we dont even want to acknowledge when something good does occur.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

I don't know what to make of it, but there were a lot of key guys held out of practice today:  Thomas, Lewis, Whimper, Kampman, Roth.....

Also had Alualu practicing at LE!  Interesting.

[Keith-N-Jax]

Be glad for Jan 2 2012.

[duvaldude08]

I don't know what to make of it, but there were a lot of key guys held out of practice today:  Thomas, Lewis, Whimper, Kampman, Roth.....

Also had Alualu practicing at LE!  Interesting.

Were they injury related or non injury related?

[I-10east]

This is hard to tell the average fan watcher of football, but stop trying to read more into what's going on right now. 

Fact:  We're totally eliminated from the playoffs.
Fact:  Our Defense, specifically our secondary, is completely decimated by injury.
Fact:  Our QB is not ready.
Fact:  The veterans on our Offense that were supposed to help out the young QB are not having a good year. 

I agree with everything that you said except for Blaine not being ready. I guess that a struggling rookie QB automatically= he's not ready, I don't buy that. Besides Mojo, Gabbert hasn't had anyone consistently reliable on the supporting cast. Our play calling has been atrocious all year under Koetter; In fact, thanks to another OC in there right now that MJD shuffle pass vs SD was the most creative play call that I've seen all year. We should cater to Gabbert's strengths on offense, alot like the Broncos cater to Tebow's. How bout dumming down the passing game. Give Gabbert two passing safety valves at the same time (Mojo and Karim) on the flats; It's hard to believe that an opposing defense won't have problems covering those two at the same time. How bout some subtle WR pick patterns to free-up someone; It seems like every NFL team runs plays like that except for the Jags. We know our O-Line sucks, esp. the spinning top at RT; Quit going for these long, time consuming patterns down the field. There's alot of things that the OC could've done to cater more to Gabbert's strengths.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Kampman and Roth - Injury

The others - not.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

I-10, when I say he's not ready, I'm alluding to the fact that he only had 2 years in college as a QB in a spread offense.  He isn't 'ready' to run play action from under center, read WRs across the field, adjust blocking, read the defense, etc. in the 10-15 seconds that he gets pre-snap.  It's a lot of info to process and not a lot of time to do it.

I agree we could do more to put him in a better position:  spread it out, keep his reads on one side of the field, use a lot of short passes, etc.  How does that help us next year and the year after and the year after?  He has to learn to be a pro set QB and apparently, learning isn't pretty, but hopefully it's effective. 

As I've told every kid that I've ever coached, it's all about repetition. 

And I'm going to bite on yet another Tebow question.  Sure, Denver has adjusted to suit Tebow and now (unfortunatly, IMO) they're smack-dab in the middle of a playoff run.  What happens next year?  Do you go into FA & the draft with the intention of running a read-option offense with Tebow or do you get players that are more suited to a traditional pro-style O?  If you go the Tebow route, you're basing the future of an entire franchise on one player, so what happens when that ONE player gets hurt? 

You have to build around a team-centric concept for long-term growth.  Look at the Packers.  They had a QB with a huge arm and an Ego to match.  The drafted another QB with a cannon for an arm and let him sit the bench and learn the system.  They drafted WRs that can get down the field to catch balls from a QB with a cannon for an arm.  They have average running backs.  They were fortunate with Rodgers being as good as he is, because their defense can't stop anyone, but because of the QB they don't have to. 

McCarthy knows how he wants his team to look and can project which pieces they'll need to fill holes.  Elway has an idea of how his team should look and Tebow is really starting to hinder his vision.  The Jaguars need that vision.  They had it with Coughlin, but he couldn't keep the salary cap in check.  We never had it with Del Rio.  And now we move into a new era.  We'll see, but it won't be next week.

[duvaldude08]

I-10, when I say he's not ready, I'm alluding to the fact that he only had 2 years in college as a QB in a spread offense.  He isn't 'ready' to run play action from under center, read WRs across the field, adjust blocking, read the defense, etc. in the 10-15 seconds that he gets pre-snap.  It's a lot of info to process and not a lot of time to do it.

I agree we could do more to put him in a better position:  spread it out, keep his reads on one side of the field, use a lot of short passes, etc.  How does that help us next year and the year after and the year after?  He has to learn to be a pro set QB and apparently, learning isn't pretty, but hopefully it's effective. 

As I've told every kid that I've ever coached, it's all about repetition. 

And I'm going to bite on yet another Tebow question.  Sure, Denver has adjusted to suit Tebow and now (unfortunatly, IMO) they're smack-dab in the middle of a playoff run.  What happens next year?  Do you go into FA & the draft with the intention of running a read-option offense with Tebow or do you get players that are more suited to a traditional pro-style O?  If you go the Tebow route, you're basing the future of an entire franchise on one player, so what happens when that ONE player gets hurt? 

You have to build around a team-centric concept for long-term growth.  Look at the Packers.  They had a QB with a huge arm and an Ego to match.  The drafted another QB with a cannon for an arm and let him sit the bench and learn the system.  They drafted WRs that can get down the field to catch balls from a QB with a cannon for an arm.  They have average running backs.  They were fortunate with Rodgers being as good as he is, because their defense can't stop anyone, but because of the QB they don't have to. 

McCarthy knows how he wants his team to look and can project which pieces they'll need to fill holes.  Elway has an idea of how his team should look and Tebow is really starting to hinder his vision.  The Jaguars need that vision.  They had it with Coughlin, but he couldn't keep the salary cap in check.  We never had it with Del Rio.  And now we move into a new era.  We'll see, but it won't be next week.

Man that salary cap fiasco really messed us up. Havent been the same since.

[I-10east]

And I'm going to bite on yet another Tebow question.  Sure, Denver has adjusted to suit Tebow and now (unfortunatly, IMO) they're smack-dab in the middle of a playoff run.  What happens next year?  Do you go into FA & the draft with the intention of running a read-option offense with Tebow or do you get players that are more suited to a traditional pro-style O?  If you go the Tebow route, you're basing the future of an entire franchise on one player, so what happens when that ONE player gets hurt? 

Believe me, I definitely anything but 'that' guy, a 'Tebow is is the end all, be all', orange & blue clad crazy wildman, I was just using that example loosely; I could've also said how the Eagles adjusted to Vick's style, or how the Colts adjusted to Manning's exclusive pocket passing style. You brought up some good points. Hopefully the Jags will get some playmakers at WR next year, and a solid offensive line; Talk about dramatically alleviating a QB's deficiencies; At the same time making him a more confident player.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

or how the Colts adjusted to Manning's exclusive pocket passing style.

THIS.  This is the best representation of catering an entire offense around 1 player.  It's also an extreme example, but here's a big 'what if'.  What if Peyton never makes it back.  What if Luck isn't as good at the next level.  How long will the franchise be in turmoil if they have to completely rehaul their entire way of thinking.

[wsansewjs]

or how the Colts adjusted to Manning's exclusive pocket passing style.

THIS.  This is the best representation of catering an entire offense around 1 player.  It's also an extreme example, but here's a big 'what if'.  What if Peyton never makes it back.  What if Luck isn't as good at the next level.  How long will the franchise be in turmoil if they have to completely rehaul their entire way of thinking.

The real issue for the Colts is that they got little TOO comfortable in their zone with Peyton Manning until one day... he got hurt. The entire Colts team collapsed.

Look at the Jaguars. The reason Jaguars is slightly better than the Colts is that Jaguars tries to be GOOD at being flexible, so when few of our guys fall back, we have replacements to maintain that consistent in this case of the Jaguars Defense. Yes, the MNF was the time that the Jaguars Defense finally gave out and collapsed because majority of the Defense players were injured.

-Josh