The Jacksonville Jaguars

Started by Non-RedNeck Westsider, October 11, 2011, 04:20:42 PM

Tacachale

The way I look at it, regardless of anything else, we still have the potential to take Houston down a peg, wreck up Tennessee's season, and smack Indy around. Hell, doing any one of those things makes for a good Sunday afternoon.
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copperfiend

If I had to guess, I say they win the next two, then beat either San Diego or Tampa and win the finale against Indy. The road games are tough. So even if they lose those two, 7-9 seems possible. The team should definitely be ending on a positive note. Next year should be similar to 2004, where the team went from 5-11 to 9-7 and just missed the playoffs.

Keith-N-Jax

Gonna be tough to beat some of these teams that can score points. If the defense keeps playing well yes, but that offense of ours is just horrific. I truley believe play calling cost us atleast two games, they still keep putting Deji in on important 3rd down plays only to punt, why keep doing that?. I know they are trying to rest Drew, but he needs to be on the field on 3rd downs if only for a decoy atleast.

duvaldude08

Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on November 15, 2011, 12:17:29 PM
Gonna be tough to beat some of these teams that can score points. If the defense keeps playing well yes, but that offense of ours is just horrific. I truley believe play calling cost us atleast two games, they still keep putting Deji in on important 3rd down plays only to punt, why keep doing that?. I know they are trying to rest Drew, but he needs to be on the field on 3rd downs if only for a decoy atleast.

We the reminding few games arent too scary. We will have to see if houston can score point with Matt. ATL definately score points. The Browns are just as bad as we are on offense, I think theyre number 30, San diego is in melt down mode and rivers is playing BAD, and the Titans are just there. I think its doable.
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copperfiend

Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on November 15, 2011, 12:17:29 PM
Gonna be tough to beat some of these teams that can score points. If the defense keeps playing well yes, but that offense of ours is just horrific. I truley believe play calling cost us atleast two games, they still keep putting Deji in on important 3rd down plays only to punt, why keep doing that?. I know they are trying to rest Drew, but he needs to be on the field on 3rd downs if only for a decoy atleast.

Tampa just got blown out at home by the same Texans team we took into the fourth quarter on the road. The Browns lost at home to the 1-7 Rams. San Diego got embarassed at home by Oakland and has a history of struggling on the east coast.

Wacca Pilatka

I think our defensive line matches up very well with Atlanta's offensive line.  I don't expect the Falcons to ring up a lot of points on the Jags.
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Keith-N-Jax

You guys need to stop this what this team did to that team routine. It means nothing week to week in the NFL. What Tampa and San Diego did one week doesnt mean anything the following week. We need to score points and score them early.

iMarvin

I was so happy to see us win yesterday, even though it was Colts. I just feel much more confident now with this team. Blaine definitely showed improvement yesterday. For the rest of the season, I see two more automatic wins and with practice, we could probably get more.

Keith-N-Jax

Nothing automatic in the NFL signed the Balitmore Ravens!!

duvaldude08

Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on November 15, 2011, 03:34:07 PM
You guys need to stop this what this team did to that team routine. It means nothing week to week in the NFL. What Tampa and San Diego did one week doesnt mean anything the following week. We need to score points and score them early.

The same can go for us as well Keith.
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on November 15, 2011, 04:38:10 PM
Nothing automatic in the NFL signed the Balitmore Ravens!! Phil Dawson Jay Feely Neil Rackers Nick Folk  Everyone!
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iMarvin

Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on November 15, 2011, 04:38:10 PM
Nothing automatic in the NFL signed the Balitmore Ravens!!
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on November 15, 2011, 05:20:01 PM
Quote from: Keith-N-Jax on November 15, 2011, 04:38:10 PM
Nothing automatic in the NFL signed the Balitmore Ravens!! Phil Dawson Jay Feely Neil Rackers Nick Folk  Everyone!

LOL! Okay, well two games we should win. I'm talking about Cleveland and Indy.

BridgeTroll

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/30786/if-jaguars-change-coach-whos-next

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If Jaguars change coach, who's next?

November, 17, 2011
Nov 171:37PM By Paul Kuharsky

Ten weeks into most NFL seasons we have a good sense of head-coaching jobs coming open and the prime candidates for them.

This year feels different.

Jim Caldwell may coach a potential 0-16 team. But to hear Bill Polian talk, the Colts’ coach may well survive. In Jacksonville, Jack Del Rio’s got one year left on his contract and a lame-duck staff.

It’s widely held that Jaguars owner Wayne Weaver will make a change if he judges the team to have shown insufficient improvement this season, and it’s hard to envision a giant turnaround now for the 3-6 Jaguars based on how poorly the offense is producing.

As for prime head-coaching candidates, I sense no buzz about the hot, young offensive assistant who’s the next big thing. In previous years -- no matter if they panned out or not -- we’ve seen guys like Josh McDaniels, Jason Garrett, Todd Haley and Ken Whisenhunt tabbed as up-and-comers who were ready.

Who are those guys now?

While Northern Florida might hold out hope that Weaver will want a name and would be able to lure one, I don’t see Bill Cowher or even Jeff Fisher heading for EverBank Stadium.

The franchise should re-sign general manager Gene Smith, allow him to decide on Del Rio and make the recommendation on the next coach.

And if Smith's in the market, that next coach should be a young offensive mind who likes Blaine Gabbert and has the best shot at developing him. Smith needs to hit a home run finding the next Mike McCarthy, Sean Payton or, this year aside, Andy Reid.

I asked around this week, talking to a couple coaches and an executive about which NFL assistant qualifies as a QB guru who’s ready to be a head coach.

Through those conversations, I present this list of possibilities:

Mike Mularkey, Atlanta offensive coordinator -- Mularkey posted a 14-18 record as Buffalo's head coach in 2004-05. But he’s got enough distance from that now that he could be worthy of a second act.

He took over as offensive coordinator in Atlanta in 2008, when quarterback Matt Ryan was a rookie. He has a bruiser of a running back in Michael Turner to go with Ryan. Ryan became just the second rookie quarterback in NFL history to throw for more than 3,000 yards, and the Falcons won 11 games.

There is a connection to Smith: Mularkey’s son, Patrick, is a scouting assistant in Jacksonville’s player personnel department.

Jay Gruden, Cincinnati offensive coordinator -- Gruden’s done fantastic work this season with rookie QB Andy Dalton. But is one good year enough to vault him to a head coaching job?

He worked on his brother Jon’s staff in Tampa Bay from 2002-08, but as an offensive assistant he wasn’t a year-round guy. He stacked the work on top of his duties quarterbacking and then coaching the Orlando Predators of the AFL.

Jay Gruden has head coaching experience in the AFL and the UFL, where he led the Florida Tuskers to the 2010 championship game as head coach and GM.

Word is he’s different than his brother, calmer with a better presence with his players.

Rob Chudzinski, Carolina offensive coordinator -- His first tour as an offensive coordinator came in Cleveland from 2007-08. The 2007 Browns won 10 games with Derek Anderson shining at quarterback.

Now Chudzinski’s been lauded for his work with Cam Newton, revising and shaping the offense to feature what the rookie quarterback does best. He’s got a strong background with tight ends, too, and is regarded as a rising star by many around the league.

He’s also a quieter, unassuming type.

Tom Clements, Green Bay quarterbacks coach -- Clements worked in the same post for New Orleans (1997-99), Kansas City (2000) and Pittsburgh (2001-03). During those stops he worked with Tommy Maddox during his comeback player of the year season in 2002 and with Kordell Stewart and Elvis Grbac during their best seasons.

He also worked as offensive coordinator in Buffalo in 2004 and 2005.

With Green Bay, Clements guided Brett Favre in his final Packers' years while helping prepare Aaron Rodgers. He’s also had a hand in the progress of highly regarded backup Matt Flynn.

But does he have the qualities of a good head coach?

Pete Carmichael, New Orleans offensive coordinator -- He’s in his third year as Payton’s top offensive lieutenant after three seasons as the Saints' quarterbacks coach.

Carmichael’s been closely involved with an offense that has excelled with Drew Brees as quarterback, with a specific role in routes, protection schemes and quarterback responsibilities.

Like Clements in Green Bay, Carmichael works for a strong coach with an offensive background and so he doesn’t function as the play-caller. While very smart, he comes across as bland and that could be a big issue for a guy expected to be the face and the personality of a franchise.
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

I've said before that I believe we should go with a head college coach instead of a current NFL coach.  I'm not really big on the coordinators moving up into a young system. 

Did you know that Chud coached with Mel Tucker in Cleveland?  They were both coordinators on a 4-12/3-13 Cleveland team after just missing the playoffs the year before (without Tucker I believe).  I don't know if I would trust the two of them together ;) , but who knows, maybe they learned something from that fiasco.  Sidenote:  He may have done wonders with Newton, but they're still 2-7, just sayin'.

I think Gruden stays where he is.  He has a lot of new talent to work with, possibly makes the playoffs and has another draft coming up to strengthen the team for (what one would assume) a definite playoff run next year.

Patience is needed.  Let's give Smith a contract for another 3 years at the end of the season and let him pick the coach.  It's a system and it needs to have some sort of consistency to work.
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thelakelander

Wow, don't give the ball to MJD on the last play?
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