Kickbacks planning an expansion

[Tacachale]

RAP is picking up their efforts on squashing this expansion. I just received my RAP newsletter and they are providing a petition against Kickback's expansion. As well as links to more information regarding the expansion.

This is a pivotal time for our neighborhood! Take a moment to learn more about the project and let your voice be heard. Sign our petition today to let the people on LUZ know that you want Kickbacks to grow responsibly and join the conversation on our Facebook page to share your thoughts.

Here is a link to the petition.
www.change.org/petitions/luz-encourage-responsible-growth-in-the-riverside-avondale-historic-district

Full discolure I am in support of Kickback's expansion.

Time for a counter-petition...

[Lucasjj]

He could include it in each menu, similar to his other letter. Let him make his case for expansion over RAP's position and give the option to ask the server for a petition to sign. He could also throw something up on their Facebook page.

[JeffreyS]

Before KB expands, can I get lunch ordered and served in under 40 minutes in the currently sized establishment?  By the way, I love the beer selection during post work hours, and I love the atmosphere, but my office has put KB on the lunch ban list because the service is so slow.

As I understand it one of the main motivators of the Expansion is to increase kitchen capacity and efficiency.

[ricker]

Deleting that one landscaped median island in that one block and creating angled nose-in parking accommodation to mirror the current design on the east side of the street could double the available parking stalls on that one side of King Street.

[Bativac]

Well, RAP is certainly wasting no time in ratcheting up the situtation.

Online petitions, and threats of lawsuits against the city galore.  I caught up with a couple of attorneys last night at one of the breweries in the district that RAP would like to apply this bizarre theory of parking based development and it looks like this is going to turn out to be a cross litigated melee.

Wonder how much money this is going to end up costing everyone involved, including the taxpayers.

Enough to get a circulator shuttle system started in Riverside?  At least.

I don't understand it. There's a successful restaurant that wants to expand, which will enliven that commercial corridor. But the people living there don't want it enlivened? Wasn't it a commercial area when they bought their homes? Is this a situation where they bought homes in an economically depressed area (i.e. lack of businesses) and hoped it would STAY depressed?

I just don't understand it. I got the petition email too. Read it and deleted it.

[cline]

Deleting that one landscaped median island in that one block and creating angled nose-in parking accommodation to mirror the current design on the east side of the street could double the available parking stalls on that one side of King Street.

That median is only about 10 feet wide- not really wide enough to add angled parking in the median.  Some sort of shuttle from the St. Vincents area would be more effective.

[JeffreyS]

Valet service would be nice.  New ownership at First Guaranty might go for a private parking service that wouldn't be leaving beer bottles in the lot.

[Lucasjj]

That median is only about 10 feet wide- not really wide enough to add angled parking in the median.  Some sort of shuttle from the St. Vincents area would be more effective.

I thought he was saying if you eliminated the median, you could put angled parking on the Kickbacks side, just like the other side already has. This way you would better utilize the parking in the area rather than parallel parking.

I don't understand it. There's a successful restaurant that wants to expand, which will enliven that commercial corridor. But the people living there don't want it enlivened? Wasn't it a commercial area when they bought their homes? Is this a situation where they bought homes in an economically depressed area (i.e. lack of businesses) and hoped it would STAY depressed?

I would like to see how many residents areactually against this in that area. I live a block from there and a couple of posters do as well. I am not in opposition of this, and they do not seem to be either.

[cline]

That median is only about 10 feet wide- not really wide enough to add angled parking in the median.  Some sort of shuttle from the St. Vincents area would be more effective.

I thought he was saying if you eliminated the median, you could put angled parking on the Kickbacks side, just like the other side already has. This way you would better utilize the parking in the area rather than parallel parking.

I don't understand it. There's a successful restaurant that wants to expand, which will enliven that commercial corridor. But the people living there don't want it enlivened? Wasn't it a commercial area when they bought their homes? Is this a situation where they bought homes in an economically depressed area (i.e. lack of businesses) and hoped it would STAY depressed?

I would like to see how many residents areactually against this in that area. I live a block from there and a couple of posters do as well. I am not in opposition of this, and they do not seem to be either.

I misunderstood.  Yes, that probably would allow for a few more spots via angled parking.  I thought he was talking about doing something like on Edgewood in Murray Hill.

I still think some sort of shuttle is the solution long term though.

[Captain Zissou]

Valet service would be nice.  New ownership at First Guaranty might go for a private parking service that wouldn't be leaving beer bottles in the lot.

First Guaranty just needs to sell off portions of their lot.  There is no reason they should have such a large campus in a dense urban neighborhood.

[cline]

Valet service would be nice.  New ownership at First Guaranty might go for a private parking service that wouldn't be leaving beer bottles in the lot.

First Guaranty just needs to sell off portions of their lot.  There is no reason they should have such a large campus in a dense urban neighborhood.

There's plenty of privately owned surface parking in the area.  Problem is there are not a lot of willing sellers. 

[Captain Zissou]

They apparently polled their members and the poll said that the residents of Riverside were concerned about parking, and wanted RAP to be more proactive on the issue.

And we are to assume there was no selection bias or leading questions??? I cry foul.

[Ocklawaha]

DEAR RAP








WITH LOVE, OCK...

[mtraininjax]

They apparently polled their members

Not me, and I have property on Dellwood, so thanks RAP for the head's up!

[grimss]

We sat down with several members of RAP earlier this week over these matters, and I have to say that I was very disappointed to hear how they feel about the subject.

They apparently polled their members and the poll said that the residents of Riverside were concerned about parking, and wanted RAP to be more proactive on the issue.

From that they have extrapolated a mandate to speak for the neighborhood immediately surrounding this area, along with a couple of other RAP members who live nearby.

Lucas, I think if the immediate neighborhood were actually asked about the issue in such a way that was unprejudiced by the RAP claims that this will be one of the largest restaurants in the city (not even close.  for example River City Brewing Company has over 700 seats in the single restaurant, not 250) or that property which does not belong to riverside residents is somehow being taken from them (public parking on public streets), most of them would not prefer that RAP try and make decisions for the business district.

Stephen, I hope you know that I love you, but you're puliing these figures out of your butt. The Jacksonville Fire Fighters are the source for the 200-seat capacity figure. What are  your sources?