Rick Scott's Veto List $615 Million

[JeffreyS]

I can see the Brainstorming session in Rick Scott's office now.

Toady: Governor Scott the citizens of the State are hurting economically.

Gov: OK then let's cut revenue so we can slash spending on the things that help those citizens.

What happened to the days when people helped themselves?

When did it become the government's job to help people?

It's that kind of thinking that built up this debt and caused these problems.

The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government. :Thomas Jefferson ,Primary Author of the Constitution.

[Jimmy]

In that case we have got some tragically bad government in Florida.

Rick Scott will be a one-term-blunder.  Hopefully people wake up for these state legislative races next year.

[BigGuy219]

I can see the Brainstorming session in Rick Scott's office now.

Toady: Governor Scott the citizens of the State are hurting economically.

Gov: OK then let's cut revenue so we can slash spending on the things that help those citizens.

What happened to the days when people helped themselves?

When did it become the government's job to help people?

It's that kind of thinking that built up this debt and caused these problems.

The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government. :Thomas Jefferson ,Primary Author of the Constitution.

Thomas Jefferson was in Paris when the constitution was written.

And Jefferson was an agrarian, who believed in a weak federal government, no banks, and wanted states to run themselves. An original tea party guy.

[CityLife]

Tacachale, if anyone should be mad about the Higher Ed vetoes it is UF and FSU (especially UF who got $0). I really hate to offend any UNF graduates here, but UF and FSU are on a totally different level than UNF. Heck even UCF and USF are on a totally different level.

UF is the #53 rated University in the country by US News (I know their ratings don't use the best methodology) and FSU is #104. Both are in the top 50 best public schools in the country according to the US News rankings.

UNF isn't even in the top 50 schools that don't have doctoral programs schools in the south. That doesn't count schools like UF, FSU, UGA, UNC, and the hundreds of other research schools. So basically UNF isn't even in the top 250 universities in the south.

You complaining about UNF furthers my argument about regionalism. With Florida's population and wealth, both UF and FSU should be top 50 Universities nationally. Yet those schools don't get near the funding that they should because politicians funnel higher ed money to lesser schools in their districts (see USF Poly). UF and FSU are really the only state schools that can keep Florida's brightest students at home, yet we as a state don't invest nearly enough money to enable that to happen. I know I would have gone out of state if my parents weren't FSU alumni and I had been raised a die hard Seminole. However, not everyone is like that and we lose a lot of bright students and future leaders out of state.

Again no offense to any UNF graduates. I know many UNF graduates who are very sharp and are doing quite well, but UNF has no right whatsoever to complain about lack of funding when much better schools are in the same boat.

[JeffreyS]

You mean when the consolidation of writings was edited into a single document.  Our Jeffersonian Democracy was framed by him.

[Yossarianlives]

I can see the Brainstorming session in Rick Scott's office now.

Toady: Governor Scott the citizens of the State are hurting economically.

Gov: OK then let's cut revenue so we can slash spending on the things that help those citizens.

What happened to the days when people helped themselves?

When did it become the government's job to help people?

It's that kind of thinking that built up this debt and caused these problems.

Again, While debt can be bad, the idea that the Gov't running up a debt is totally a bad thing is a common misconception - when in a recession it is important for the government to spend money (seeing as though consumption, capital investment and net exports typically all drop).  This leads to the other 3 proponents of GDP (through the expenditures approach) to increase leading to a rise in GDP and the multiplier effect, therefore improving the economy (note, multiplier effect is not the same as trickle down economics).  The tricky part comes when the economy improves and it is necessary to increase taxes to help pay off the debts incurred when the economy was on the downside of the economic.  No one wants to do it (raise taxes when things are good) so they don't, resulting in a debt that never gets paid off.  It is simple cyclical budget economics, but no one likes to mention it.  As for people helping themselves, I believe our government is of the people, for the people and by the people.  The idea that anyone is truly independant and not interdependant in todays world is laughable.

[BigGuy219]

As for people helping themselves, I believe our government is of the people, for the people and by the people.  The idea that anyone is truly independant and not interdependant in todays world is laughable.

This kind of thinking is dangerous. We need to be independent. We can't give the government too much control over us, or ultimately they'll misuse it.

[JeffreyS]

It is always a balancing act they are all independent in Somalia. Just keep the power to vote leaders out don't make them weak leaders.

[BigGuy219]

It is always a balancing act they are all independent in Somalia. Just keep the power to vote leaders out don't make them weak leaders.

I don't understand how you and I could have grown up in the same country.

This isn't Sweden, and I don't know why people want it to be Sweden. We spent 50 years fighting the spread of socialism across the globe.

Now 20 years after we won, suddenly everyone wants to be a Socialist? I just don't understand what happened. It's very troubling.

[tufsu1]

How many times did Rick Scott specifically promise not to cut education spending?  

oh but he didn't...as he puts it, the state share stayed the same...they just didn't backfill the Federal stimulus dollars...which of course went in 2 years ago because the state couldn't afford to fund education at 2008 level without it.

[Jimmy]

As for people helping themselves, I believe our government is of the people, for the people and by the people.  The idea that anyone is truly independant and not interdependant in todays world is laughable.

This kind of thinking is dangerous. We need to be independent. We can't give the government too much control over us, or ultimately they'll misuse it.

We are the government.

[BigGuy219]

As for people helping themselves, I believe our government is of the people, for the people and by the people.  The idea that anyone is truly independant and not interdependant in todays world is laughable.

This kind of thinking is dangerous. We need to be independent. We can't give the government too much control over us, or ultimately they'll misuse it.

We are the government.

If 'we' are the government, then why did the government just do something that everyone in this thread but me disaproves of? 'We' are not the government. It's a cute notion. But, the government is the enemy of every freedom loving citizen. We must strip down the beast as much as possible before it kills us, and the easiest way of doing that is to cut funding.

[Jimmy]

The governor did it.  We the people will undo it in course.

[Timkin]

the beast? do you mean the Government?

[BigGuy219]

the beast? do you mean the Government?

Yes.