bing seems like its better than google

Started by stephendare, July 08, 2009, 06:08:58 PM


Omarvelous09

Eh...i used Bing at work, don't really like it. Maybe I'm just used to it...but i like getting different results! lol  :-\
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stjr

Not so fast, Stephen.  I ran a few tests myself.  One little test with your comparison site was to search "metrojacksonville".  I thought Google was far better in finding relevant results than Bing.

Further, I have read numerous articles and reader comments and its clear to me that Bing is well behind Google in most respects based on other people's experiences.  Some have found a few features in Bing that appear to be nice but fall flat in their ability to deliver, either at all, or with consistent quality.

In the end, I suspect that if Bing has any minor pluses, Google will not only pick up on them, but do it far better.  And, Google won't do a Mr. SoFTty and roll out the features half baked and then try and fix them while people are live testing them or suffering through security issues not planned for.  Just look at all the iterations of Windows, etc., especially Vista, in which it was rolled out totally "not ready for prime time".  It burned so many bridges for Mr. Softy, that the next version is coming out after only 18 months and it makes no references to Vista anywhere.

Microsoft reminds me of Chinese manufacturers:  great copiers of existing products but empty in the innovation and execution departments.
Hey!  Whatever happened to just plain ol' COMMON SENSE!!

Lunican

Google announced an operating system today, so you will hear more and more of this Microsoft vs Google talk.

downtownparks

The android platform is also quietly growing. It may not be an Iphone killer as Google hoped, but I think it will get a nice market share of its own.

The only real question to me is, if Google can remain benevolent.

urbanlibertarian

The Google Chrome operating system is Linux based and is being designed so it can run on the very energy efficient IPhone processor and be used in netbooks and tablets.
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ProjectMaximus

Quote from: downtownparks on July 08, 2009, 08:57:59 PM

The only real question to me is, if Google can remain benevolent.

Exactly. So far, from everything they've done so carefully and conscientiously, (eg with Youtube) I'd say that I'm hopeful.


thekillingwax

I still don't get the vista hate. It has worked flawlessly for me since beta and while 7's nice, it is mainly their reaction to a very effective negative ad campaign. Hell, my mom bought a laptop and she was going on and on about how great it was and that she was happy it wasn't running that "awful vista" until I showed her that it actually was running vista the whole time. MS's "mojave experiment" was also pretty enlightening, random schmoes were demoed a new MS OS and they were usually pretty shocked to learn it was just vista.

Chrome to me sounds like it's going to try and out-do ubuntu. For a linux os, ubuntu is pretty simple but it's still linux at heart and you still have to recompile kernels and fprot your tarballs. (Maybe not but it's still fun to say)

johnsantangelo

While I hate how huge Google has become, and all the data they collect on users across the web (feedburner, google search, youtube, chrome, desktop search, analytics/urchin, voice, toolbar, gmail, etc.) they still have the most relevant search.

As for Vista, it does suck. Its so damn bloated, I've downgraded vista PCs to XP and they run so much faster. I've found Vista is terrible on laptops (restoring from sleep takes ages) and has horrible networking issues - not to mention the annoying driver issues it had in the beginning. Plus, you need at least 3gigs of RAM just to get by. Uh. Windows XP or OSX for me.

I'm running windows 7 RC in an OSX virtual machine, and it seems a lot better than Vista so far. I'd recommend Vista users get the special upgrade pricing on Windows 7 while it lasts.

coredumped

Try the blind search:
http://blindsearch.fejus.com/
and see which results you like better. With this it shows you AFTER you pick the relevant results, so you really don't know.
Bing really impressed me, but I'm afraid to use it - I fear if it gets popular enough they'll "require" internet explorer.
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Sportmotor

google still seems the more powerful search engine. Like Omar we use it at work, and really not impressed by it at all
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subro

Google Caffeinates Its Search Engine


Brennon Slattery
Tuesday, August 11, 2009 07:19 AM PDT

Over the past few months, Google has been working on optimizing its search engine architecture for better, faster results. For some this may seem ridiculous: isn't Google already the fastest and most reliable search engine out there? Perhaps, but Google isn't about to rest on its laurels; it's committed to evolution.

The secret project is named Caffeine -- a wink at its speed increase -- and is designed to "push the envelope on size, indexing speed, accuracy, comprehensiveness, and other dimensions." Right now anybody can try out its coffee-amped powers. But don't expect a mind-blowing spectacle of change: Caffeine's tweaks are all under the hood. I Googled myself using both Caffeine and the ordinary search and found no difference between the two. "Most users won't notice a difference in search results. But web developers and power searchers might notice a few differences, so we're opening up a web developer preview to collect feedback," Google wrote in a blog post.

If you're dissatisfied with your new and improved search results, Google wants to know. Check out the bottom of your search page and you'll see a link asking "Dissatisfied? Help us improve." Click there and submit feedback on Caffeine. Google is always looking to improve its systems -- hence why everything stays in beta forever -- and could use a shout-out.

Matt Cutts, a Google software engineer, worked on Caffeine before its release and gave some Q&A on his blog. Cutts even answers the question that is likely on many minds: is Google giving itself a makeover in response to Microsoft's Bing? The answer is no. "I love competition in search and want lots of it, but this change has been in the works for months," Cutts wrote. "I think the best way for Google to do well in search is to continue what we've done for the last decade or so: focus relentlessly on pushing our search quality forward."

I'm not sure I believe that statement. Yes, Google has undoubtedly been working on Caffeine for months, but Microsoft has been building Bing for a while, too.

The test of Caffeine's success rests on whether or not people will care and understand, and if the changes prove more substantial than a few additional pages of faster results.

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CrysG

Quote from: coredumped on August 10, 2009, 10:17:06 PM
Try the blind search:
http://blindsearch.fejus.com/
and see which results you like better. With this it shows you AFTER you pick the relevant results, so you really don't know.

I really liked that site...I tried it 4 times and picked Yahoo every time. I personally prefer Yahoo so if only confirmed what I already knew.

coredumped

I was surprised, I chose google the least when I used blindsearch.
Jags season ticket holder.