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[Dog Walker]

Don't you mean "$incere Compa$$ion"?

[strider]

Actually, several of the owners of the remaining rooming houses and half way houses do indeed live on site or at least next door.  Just about all of them have several other interests in Springfield and/ or many have lived in Springfield in the past. If you have a business in an area, own houses in an area, you actually can care about the area as well.  Many who know me, for instance, know I do care about the area and that we are in Springfield many times each and everyday,  which is why I bother to post anything at all.  I keep hoping some of you out there "get it" and we can all work towards a better Springfield.  Instead, we are faced with comments like some of the posts above from some who don't have a clue of what they speak.

[enuffalready]

VanHorne had "interest" in and look how well that has worked for Springfield.  The "used to"'s - gee, why not now? Spare us the concern, dump the garbage in your own yard.

[strider]

Van Horne...hmmmm.....,let's see, a block plus of decently restored houses, several commercial properties still up and running that might otherwise have been torn down and how odd that when things were going good for him, he was the darling of Springfield.  When things got rough, most turned on him.  Some of the "bad press" may have been earned, but say what you will, the legacy he left Springfield was not all bad. I think that, at least when he is in a generous mood, even Stephen might agree with that.

What about all those empty new foundations scattered all around Springfield?  If something happens to SRG, are you going to remember them the same way as Van Horne? 

You also asked why I don't live in Springfield anymore?  Several reasons, actually.  Most aren't any of your business.  What I have at my garage/shop wouldn't be welcomed in Springfield. Which is actually OK, as it wouldn't be appropriate in a historic area.

But we digress. Let's repeat: I keep hoping some of you out there "get it" and we can all work towards a better Springfield.  Instead, we are faced with comments like some of the posts above from some who don't have a clue of what they speak.

[fsu813]

My guess is that you feel "a better Springfield" includes all of your borading/halfway houses and more, while most everyone else thinks differently. i'm not saying you run bad houses, i'm saying they inherently come with baggage that most would rather not be around.

[AlexS]

Sadly enough Springfield will not improve by posts on the forum board. Contemplate that !

[strider]

 AlexS, what you say is mostly true...but it can begin with a better understanding of things from sensible posts on a forum board, but it takes personal commitment and personal interaction to make a difference in the end.

[AlexS]

AlexS, what you say is mostly true...but it can begin with a better understanding of things from sensible posts on a forum board, but it takes personal commitment and personal interaction to make a difference in the end.

Agreed. But what is the percentage of residents who read or post on the forum board ? And how many of these still have an open mind ?
I am so tired of people not even trying to invest the energy to research the facts. Most believe a party line from a "trusted" source.

[enuffalready]

enuff already:  small people.  small minds.  small wonder.

fsu813:  Everything comes with baggage.  Rich people beat their kids.  Fun people divorce.  Quiet people go nuts and shoot thirty strangers at mcdonalds on a random thursday.

Are there statistics to back up the fact that EVERYTHING comes with baggage?  Open minded, certainly.  Also tired of people peeing on us and trying to convince us that it is raining. 

[strider]

Sometimes, AlexS, it isn't the ones that are posting on the forum that you must care about.  It is the scores of people who read the forum and never post.  Frankly, while it is important to reach residents of Springfield proper, it can be just as important to get the info out to those who have an interest in Springfield but may not live here.  A look at the membership of MJ shows a wide range of people from city government to just the guy down the street.

I read and post to both try to provide information and learn myself.  It seems easier sometimes to read about a subject then research it yourself rather start the research all on your own.

Yes, I agree, it can get tiring to deal with those like, say, enuffalready, whose entire MJ career has been one of implying bad things about people ( sort of name calling) and implying that someone is peeing on him/her. Sad, really.

Corrected per the post below. My apologies.

[enuffalready]

Sometimes, AlexS, it isn't the ones that are posting on the forum that you must care about.  It is the scores of people who read the forum and never post.  Frankly, while it is important to reach residents of Springfield proper, it can be just as important to get the info out to those who have an interest in Springfield but may not live here.  A look at the membership of MJ shows a wide range of people from city government to just the guy down the street.

I read and post to both try to provide information and learn myself.  It seems easier sometimes to read about a subject then research it yourself rather start the research all on your own.

Yes, I agree, it can get tiring to deal with those like, say, enuffalready, whose entire MJ career has been one of name calling and implying that someone is peeing on him/her. Sad, really.

No what is sad is people using people for the almighty dollar under the guise of caring.  Take away the money and these concerned people would be nowhere to be found.  You don't live here so quit trying to tell us what is or isn't good for us.  I don't remember calling you a name but hey Joe you seem to know everything about me, yet you are so very clueless.  Sad that someone like you that is so open minded is so quick to judge someone else so quickly.

[zoo]

Strider, your posts continue to be so condescending, I don't believe you have much of a chance of convincing others of the argument you believe in -- that the group homes, boarding houses, rooming houses, etc. (low density or otherwise) of today are the same places you describe in your trips down memory lane, and that you run them out of the good of your heart, rather than out of capitalistic interests.

A resident's "investment model" is dependent on factors that contribute to the increase of property values. While all property owners would benefit from this, it seems the model you currently espouse, which relies on property values remaining where they are so rents continue to be well below market-rate and subsidies for low-income/special needs housing can be received, is more advantageous to you. This places you, as a non-resident, at the opposite end of the model from residents.

You may not be a slumlord, and I'll give you props for that. But you are also no hero in Springfield to the people who actually live here -- you are a capitalist protecting your interests, simple as that. And just because others don't agree with your approach does not mean they don't "get it" or are not sensible.

Your insults may be disguised in more civil language than most personal attacks on this site, but a duck is a duck.

[Omarvelous09]

Strider, your posts continue to be so condescending, I don't believe you have much of a chance of convincing others of the argument you believe in -- that the group homes, boarding houses, rooming houses, etc. (low density or otherwise) of today are the same places you describe in your trips down memory lane, and that you run them out of the good of your heart, rather than out of capitalistic interests.

A resident's "investment model" is dependent on factors that contribute to the increase of property values. While all property owners would benefit from this, it seems the model you currently espouse, which relies on property values remaining where they are so rents continue to be well below market-rate and subsidies for low-income/special needs housing can be received, is more advantageous to you. This places you, as a non-resident, at the opposite end of the model from residents.

You may not be a slumlord, and I'll give you props for that. But you are also no hero in Springfield to the people who actually live here -- you are a capitalist protecting your interests, simple as that. And just because others don't agree with your approach does not mean they don't "get it" or are not sensible.

Your insults may be disguised in more civil language than most personal attacks on this site, but a duck is a duck.

whoa...kudos.

[sheclown]

I seriously doubt that Strider expects to be anyone's hero (except mine, of course, and at that he is very good).  

I do think it is important for all who love Springfield to look at all of the factors which contributed to its downfall in years past, in order that we don't repeat it.  That seems reasonable enough.  

As far as his condescending tone...geez...quack quack everywhere.

[strider]

Actually, Zoo, the word most used to describe me by many on these forums is sanctimonious.  Please try to get it right.