Peyton's Struggles: The Convention Center

[Ocklawaha]

Nothing like the sweet scent of creosote and molten metal in the early morning, all to the tune of ringing steel.

Use Concrete, costs a bit more, but lasts longer and stronger to support future trains of all types.

CC needs to go on the river, turn the Shipyards or the JEA spaces into the CC, no one wants to look at McCoy's creek in a CC hotel. If the river is our focal point, we really need to have the CC on the river.

MTrain, ever been off the East end of Beaver Street at Washington? (Not pulling your leg here, it's worth the look). Hogans Creek winds through a thick woods to the South and with very little imagination, anyone that's ever been to San Antonio's river walk can see the possibilities. BTW, I'm not talking some socialized project either (I didn't vote for Obama, ha! ha!), I'm talking rolling vintage streetcars through on the Beaver Street alignment, but on PRIVATE right-of-way. Put a gingerbread station near the creek, a few walks, clean the place up and American Enterprise would do the rest.

On that track Concrete does make better track but that's more an LRT thing, 3' - 4' of excavation. Streetcar can use panel track with flat steel ties, which are then embedded in concrete. A stronger system is BUCKET TRACK, (Think 5 gallon paint bucket of concrete) with rail clips on the top. None of these have the good old railroad smell!!

OCKLAWAHA

[mtraininjax]

OC - I find it very hard to build a river walk when Maxwell House's truck depot consumes so much of the space along there. What is along Hogan's creek anyway? JEA treatment facility, the Arthritis building (which I hear is a signature or 2 away from becoming HQ for the Jax Historic Society, YAY), some private business structures, and then lots of brush and debris past the Adams Street and Duval Street overpasses. Then it gets residential, turns near the armory and heads Northwest, past the Health department.

Clean it up I say, but the Feds are the only ones with money. We all know its a problem, where are the funds Ander? Where are the funds Corrine? Let's fix what we know to be a problem, get people down to the creek, using the parks, using the areas around them. Once we have the people, we have the need for more transportation. Yeah, congestion will suck, but at least we prove the NEED for the transportation before we build it ahead of any of the projects to get people to use the parks and places that the transportation is needed.

If we wanted trolleys at the beach, some would suggest we build the trolleys and hope that the people come and inhabit the area. Where does that happen? How realisitic is it? I am no fan of JTA and their lack of vision, but I know we have to a complete plan on all aspects of growth, not just transportation to make rail a viable solution. With this administration, I don't see it.