Peyton: 14 percent tax hike might be needed

[CrysG]

And I almost forgot, you might be able to afford your car but maybe not the gas after JEA hikes their rates....AGAIN.

[Deuce]

And I almost forgot, you might be able to afford your car but maybe not the gas after JEA hikes their rates....AGAIN.

If you read the papes recently, you would see that JEA is able to lower the variable fuel rate this October, so the net change in utility costs will be downward not upward. Clay county is not going to be immune to rising rates either. All utilities face the same problems that caused JEA to raise it's rates.

[reednavy]

That's fine, because after the city raises your property taxes, adds more fee's and misspends your tax money you might not be able to afford you car to drive anywhere.

If you did your research, you would know I do not own property, and my partner is the landowner and pays the property taxes. Oh, and since when did Clay County no misspend money and such? I like how you really seem to give off this negative vibe about a lot of that this city has to offer.

[reednavy]

And I almost forgot, you might be able to afford your car but maybe not the gas after JEA hikes their rates....AGAIN.

That makes absolutely no sense. I'd rather pay JEA rates than FPL, which are higher. How does gasoline have to do with JEA rates?

[fatcat]

The property tax in Duval county is already insane. I am moving to Massachusetts (AKA Taxchusetts)

[reednavy]

The property tax in Duval county is already insane. I am moving to Massachusetts (AKA Taxchusetts)

Then get taxed on your income.

[tufsu1]

The property tax in Duval county is already insane. I am moving to Massachusetts (AKA Taxchusetts)

yes...insanely LOW....like 20% lower than any other major local government in FL

[tufsu1]

Why should they cut employee salaries? City employees are also city taxpayers just like you. Why should they lose when it was the voters who decided to cap property taxes despite warnings from experts who said it would make things worse in the long run.

agreed...City employees generally don't make that much anyway...and keep in mind that voters didn't just cap property taxes, they in fact voted to lower them statewide....of course that amendment did not actually pass in Duval County, but we're stuck with it anyway

[tufsu1]

And that is why I'm moving to Clay...

Maybe they needed some more money to plan more trips to France.

good luck with that...let us know how much more you end up paying in impact fees, gas, tolls, etc.

[fatcat]

also I do not like to suggest this, short term pay cut to city employees might be necessary because almost all businesses are having pay cuts.

[mtraininjax]

The employees in the City are not the issue. What IS the issue is that Peyton cannot find a position and stick with it. He has more waffles than John Kerry did in the 2004 election. Peyton is a disaster, he is all over the place. Last week he wanted money to fix the fountain, then he wanted to go to Paris for an air show, this week, he wants more money to fix a shortfall. This is a chinese fire drill of errors. Where is Hollingsworth on these? Where is Clark? Some of the council people want to be mayor some day, now is the time to step out and show some leadership, make a name for themselves before 2011.

14% is not enough, where or how he got that number, no one will tell us. The City budget is like sitting down and reading a book in multiple languages, confusing, and a waste of time because it never tells you the whole story. Could we get an auditor who can sit down and spell out what the money will fund and why we need it now? 60 million deficit today, 65 million next week, 70 million by end of July, who really knows on the 4th floor? They are so clueless, it is sad.

We really need some leadership at the front of this issue. The mayor is done, put a fork in him.

[CrysG]

And that is why I'm moving to Clay...

Maybe they needed some more money to plan more trips to France.

good luck with that...let us know how much more you end up paying in impact fees, gas, tolls, etc.

Gas----Hummm.....I either work from home or drive to my office in CLAY.....I'll be saving some money there....

Tolls---- Lets see you're right....there are tolls everywhere...wait there aren't any...so I'll pay imaginary pennies to them

Impact fee's.....lets see....buying a already built home....no fee's.....

Total= 56464165464 imaginary pennies.

[reednavy]

Gas----Hummm.....I either work from home or drive to my office in CLAY.....I'll be saving some money there....

Tolls---- Lets see you're right....there are tolls everywhere...wait there aren't any...so I'll pay imaginary pennies to them

Impact fee's.....lets see....buying a already built home....no fee's.....

Total= 56464165464 imaginary pennies.

Nice use of only 4 numbers there.

They may not have certain fee's yet in Clay, but the way Clay County is growing is not sustainable and in the long run, will seriously hurt them. Clay County just doesn't appeal to me at all. Having lived in an exurb for 18 years before be stationed and getting out here, now, I like living in the main city of the metro area and ahving everything I need within a short distance.

For a city our size, 12th largest, we have one of the lowest property tax rates of all the top 100 largest cities in the nation.

However, you do seem to brag and rave about other areas and locations that are not Jacksonville.

[Keith-N-Jax]

I wouldnt mind paying extra money, but this city has shown me nothing in the past that they know how to properly spend money. Downtown is a sea of empty lots and decay, crime is ramped, and our parks lay in ruins. This has been going on for decades. Now they want more money to waste and spend, spend, spend. Buying a house in this city was a mistake on my part. I just hope I can get outta here within a few years.

[tufsu1]

Tolls---- Lets see you're right....there are tolls everywhere...wait there aren't any...so I'll pay imaginary pennies to them

Its called the Outer Beltway...coming soon to a Clay County neighborhood near you.

Of course the bigger picture issue is this....when people flee the City, balancing the budget becomes even harder....just ask Baltimore, Philly, Cleveland, Detroit, etc....so go ahead and perpetuate the problem!