Entire Antarctic Shelf splitting away from Continent.

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downtownparks

#885
February 05, 2009, 09:50:55 PM
Kelly, nobody is denying that the climate changes and shifts, sometimes even rapidly. The only bone of contention is that humans are largely at fault. Me, Im sticking to the whole sun theory.

kellypope

#886
February 06, 2009, 01:09:02 PM
"The one thing for sure, is that only a fool would argue about whose fault the falling piano is when you are standing directly beneath it."

Exactly. And even this is just hypothetical, it's worth the brain exercise.

So, let's propose this: After losing many beach and riverside homes to rising tides, say, 5 feet (for now), what does this mean for Jacksonville? Exactly which parts are suddenly wetlands?

If there are any efforts made by our city, I'd say the first would have to be by the transportation department. Would the railroad lines have to be moved to higher land? What is the highest point in Florida, anyway? Our landfills? That would be a terrible place to live. I wonder if houseboats or other large, floating, people carriers are a good investment. I wonder if ferries would become more common. Or canoes, even. How do you power a boat without fossil fuels?

What kinds of ecological changes would come to our community? More wetlands means more ducks, more habitat for rices. Would the salinity changes seriously alter our waters/coasts? How seriously? Would it rain more since there would be more water (and perhaps more heat by this point?) around to evaporate? Would hurricanes be more intense?

I think we need to have a lot of people learning a lot of things. Like earthen masonry, knotting, foraging, farming, candlemaking, papermaking, textile construction, crude boat/raft construction, mill construction (wind or water)...the list, I am sure, is endless. Not just because there may come a time when we might need one or two of these skills, but because they are the product of human ingenuity for the past however many thousands of years. We shouldn't just let a computer or an electric machine take away the knowledge from us. If there was a time when things were constructed by hand, there will always be a time (given the materials still exist) when they can be constructed by hand.
Have you called Councilman Warren Jones to thank him for sponsoring the human rights bill? Do it now! Super quick and easy--plus, it feels better than leaving angry messages with bad guys. Call his office at (904) 630-1395

kellypope

#887
February 06, 2009, 01:23:26 PM
Well, dang.

Do you have any information about rising tides--like a study that's been going on for years examining sea levels? Is there a rate that we have a vague idea about? 11 inches...I wonder how long it would take for that to happen...
Have you called Councilman Warren Jones to thank him for sponsoring the human rights bill? Do it now! Super quick and easy--plus, it feels better than leaving angry messages with bad guys. Call his office at (904) 630-1395

BridgeTroll

#888
February 06, 2009, 01:54:47 PM
QuoteThe one thing for sure, is that only a fool would argue about whose fault the falling piano is when you are standing directly beneath it.

This would make State Farm Insurance the smartest people still in the state... :)
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

#889
February 06, 2009, 03:24:07 PM
If you guys will pay my way I will take one for the team and attend... :)
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

#890
February 07, 2009, 12:51:38 PM
Pack you bags... aside from the seriousness of the issue... I know some really good restaurants... ;)
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

#891
February 07, 2009, 01:05:23 PM
Really good Mexican in the south bay too...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

#892
February 07, 2009, 01:47:06 PM
No Hostel for me anymore... motel 6 at a minimum... 8) :D
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

gatorback

#893
February 07, 2009, 09:21:15 PM Last Edit: February 07, 2009, 09:22:54 PM by gatorback
couchsurfers.com craigstlist.com < you can find a room for a night
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

gatorback

#894
February 08, 2009, 03:49:10 PM
More signs of global cooling.

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HEALESVILLE, Australia â€" Entire towns have been seared off the map by wildfires raging through southeastern Australia, burning people in their homes and cars in the deadliest blaze in the country's history. The number of dead Monday stood at 108, a grim toll that rose almost by the hour as officials reached further into the fire zone.

Searing temperatures and wind blasts created a firestorm that swept across a swath of the country's Victoria state, where at least 700 homes were destroyed and all of the victims died. More victims were expected to be found, officials said.

"Hell in all its fury has visited the good people of Victoria," Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said. "It's an appalling tragedy for the nation."

The skies rained ash and trees exploded in the inferno, witnesses said, as temperatures of up 117 F (47 C) combined with blasting winds to create furnace-like conditions.

The town of Marysville and several hamlets in the Kinglake district, both about 50 miles (100 kilometers) north of Melbourne, were utterly devastated.

At Marysville, a winter tourism town that was home to about 800 people, up to 90 percent of buildings were in ruins, witnesses said. Police said two people died there.

"Marysville is no more," Senior Constable Brian Cross told the AP as he manned a checkpoint Sunday on a road leading into the town.

At least 18 of the deaths were from the Kinglake area, where residents said the fire hit with barely any notice.[/qoute]
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

BridgeTroll

#895
February 08, 2009, 03:54:35 PM
It is?
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

kellypope

#896
February 08, 2009, 04:03:14 PM
Once you get past the inferno you get to the frozen core.
Have you called Councilman Warren Jones to thank him for sponsoring the human rights bill? Do it now! Super quick and easy--plus, it feels better than leaving angry messages with bad guys. Call his office at (904) 630-1395

gatorback

#897
February 08, 2009, 05:14:07 PM
lol...btw, we are way above avg. here in the states as well as much as 20 degrees above avg in some places.  But, it means nothing I know.  Just ignore all this.
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

jandar

#898
February 08, 2009, 08:31:29 PM
And much below average in others.

Welcome to Mother Nature. She makes man's best efforts look foolish.

downtownparks

#899
February 08, 2009, 08:42:58 PM
Uhm... I think the arsonist are a bit more responsible than Global warming...

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25026642-5001021,00.html

Just sayin.
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