Entire Antarctic Shelf splitting away from Continent.

[gatorback]

Fairbanks Alaska hit 52 yesterday.  52! The warmest it's ever been in Alaska in Jan. Hahahah

[RiversideGator]

Keep dreaming...

[gatorback]

Are you seriously saying sea levels are not rising?

[tufsu1]

please go ask a meterologist how common our December weather was here in Jacksonville

Having lived here my entire life, I can say the weather is quite common for Jacksonville.  How long have you been here?

Oh and what did the meteorologist you spoke with say on this topic?

River...you're starting to sound like Stephen...you made a statement and I asked you to back it up with knowledge from a meteorologist...instead you turned it back on me.

I have been here for 3 years but in Florida for 18...and while a few days in the 70's is normal, 15+ straight days is not...from what I remember, the folks on the TV news implied that it was a very warm December.

Another interesting note...I was in Tallahassee last night and it was forecast to get down to 18...which would be the coldest it had been there since 1996....but in the early 90's, they would get 2-3 nights a winter with lows in the teens.... what does that say to you?

[tufsu1]

cotton and arrogance?  this has nothing to do with our discussion the other day Stephen...

All I was trying to do was point out how River turns questions back around on other posters....something that he has done to you (and vice versa) in the past!

[gatorback]

It's still 52 in Fairbanks Alaska. They won't acknowledge that either.

[RiversideGator]

Gosh.  That settles it.   

[midnightblackrx]

Such a tired argument. Lets hope we are warming. The trend the last ten years shows the opposite from warming. but as Al Gore has demonstrated, actual science and facts don't matter to climate creeps.

Lets hope Pravda is wrong: http://english.pravda.ru/science/earth/106922-0/ is wrong and we are not slipping into another ice age...

[gatorback]

Gosh.  That settles it.  

If you say so.

[RiversideGator]

Fairbanks has become a veritable Miami Beach.  Perhaps you should winter there from now on, gatorback.   

[gatorback]

Fairbacks would be a little to warm for me now.  I'd have to push further inland. Oh wait....

Chinook brings record temperatures to Interior Alaska

By Tim Mowry

Published Friday, January 16, 2009

Kevin Brune, 11, catches some air while hitting a jump on his Stiga Snow Racer sled at the University of Alaska Fairbanks sledding hill Thursday afternoon, January 15, 2009.

Photo by Eric Engman

FAIRBANKS â€" Mother Nature can’t seem to make up her mind.

The temperature at Fairbanks International Airport hit a record high of 44 degrees just before midnight on Wednesday, continuing what has been a dramatic warm-up following one of the worst cold snaps in decades.

On Sunday, the final day of a cold spell that kept residents in Alaska’s second-largest city shivering for 16 days straight, the low temperature at the airport was negative 44. That’s a difference of 88 degrees in just three days.

“Incredible,” said meteorologist Rick Thoman at the National Weather Service in Fairbanks. “Is there any other place in the country that can do that?

“It’s just a spectacular chinook,” he said.

The temperature at Eielson Air Force Base hit 50 degrees just after midnight Wednesday, setting a new all-time record high for January at the military base 25 miles southeast of Fairbanks.

In Nenana, the temperature climbed to 54 degrees Thursday morning, another all-time high, Thoman said.

The 44-degree reading at the airport late Wednesday broke the record of 43 degrees set in 1981. Thursday’s high of 45 degrees in Fairbanks fell 5 degrees short of a record of 50 degrees set in 1981.

Other notable warm temperature readings were 54 at Birch Lake; 52 in Salcha; 48 in Healy; 46 in Denali Park; and 45 in Central, the latter two of which set new daily records.

“There’s July days when it’s not that warm at Birch Lake,” Thoman quipped.

[gatorback]

It just keeps coming...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jan/18/obama-climate-change

'We have only four years left to act on climate change - America has to lead'
Jim Hansen is the 'grandfather of climate change' and one of the world's leading climatologists. In this rare interview in New York, he explains why President Obama's administration is the last chance to avoid flooded cities, species extinction and climate catastrophe


Along one wall of Jim Hansen's wood-panelled office in upper Manhattan, the distinguished climatologist has pinned 10 A4-sized photographs of his three grandchildren: Sophie, Connor and Jake. They are the only personal items on display in an office otherwise dominated by stacks of manila folders, bundles of papers and cardboard boxes filled with reports on climate variations and atmospheric measurements.

The director of Nasa's Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York is clearly a doting grandfather as well as an internationally revered climate scientist. Yet his pictures are more than mere expressions of familial love. They are reminders to the 67-year-old scientist of his duty to future generations, children whom he now believes are threatened by a global greenhouse catastrophe that is spiralling out of control because of soaring carbon dioxide emissions from industry and transport.

"I have been described as the grandfather of climate change. In fact, I am just a grandfather and I do not want my grandchildren to say that grandpa understood what was happening but didn't make it clear," Hansen said last week. Hence his warning to Barack Obama, who will be inaugurated as US president on Tuesday. His four-year administration offers the world a last chance to get things right, Hansen said. If it fails, global disaster - melted sea caps, flooded cities, species extinctions and spreading deserts - awaits mankind.

"We cannot now afford to put off change any longer. We have to get on a new path within this new administration. We have only four years left for Obama to set an example to the rest of the world. America must take the lead."

After eight years of opposing moves to combat climate change, thanks to the policies of President George Bush, the US had given itself no time for manoeuvre, he said. Only drastic, immediate change can save the day and those changes proposed by Hansen - who appeared in Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth and is a winner of the World Wildlife Fund's top conservation award - are certainly far-reaching. In particular, the idea of continuing with "cap-and-trade" schemes, which allow countries to trade allowances and permits for emitting carbon dioxide, must now be scrapped, he insisted. Such schemes, encouraged by the Kyoto climate treaty, were simply "weak tea" and did not work. "The United States did not sign Kyoto, yet its emissions are not that different from the countries that did sign it."

[BridgeTroll]

Below was the best part of that article... 

Oil companies were taking a beating when gas prices were at $4 a gallon.

Where is the applause now that prices have dropped below $2 a gallon?

The reason: They are scapegoats.

Investor-owned oil companies don't control oil prices.

Let that sink in.

[Charleston native]

There is no god but Obama, and the Goracle and Hansen are his prophets.

[jandar]

I really suggest reading the following:
http://www.geography.uc.edu/~kenhinke/uhi/HinkelEA-IJOC-03.pdf

It goes in depth on the issue of having measuring stations in the middle of settlements/cities and then relying solely on that data. When the winds were down, it showed Barrow, AK as being hotter than it should be.

Many many many of the stations that NOAA and NASA are using are badly located. They are set by air conditioners, in the middle of parking lots, next to methane burners, etc.

Visit: http://www.surfacestations.org/ and see how badly located many stations are and why their data should be suspect.

Here is one that is located correctly and has valid data.


Here is another one that is poorly located, wonder when it was installed in its current location.