Attractions in Jacksonville...we need way more.

[Jankelope]

Hey everyone. I was just thinking about this the other day.

Wish MOSH closing, we lost our Science Museum. There is supposed to be another one coming, but we still are in the dark about when and if it's actually going to happen as promised. If you look at our Major attractions, it's really just the Zoo. The Beaches function as an attraction, but not because they're world class, but because they are less crowded. Adventure Landing just closed and the only Water Park in Northeast Florida is closed. The Arboretum has awesome plans but feels like it's a decade away from truly living up to its full potential. I think as it stands...we really need:

- MOSH to happen at a World class level
- Continued large scale investments in the Zoo
- An additional large museum of some kind (Military History?)
- A true Water Park destination on the scale of something at least like the Busch Gardens Waterpark.
- Indoor or outdoor Mini Golf (we just lost that too basically) that is aspirational in some way
- Some kind of publicly accessible observation tower or top floor attraction.

There is just such a lack in these things. I wish we could use local option gas tax after the Emerald Trail is finished to finance and incentivize attractions specifically.

[MakeDTjaxGre@tAgain]

MOSH getting going is mandatory imo. As far as museums, I do believe we need at least 2 - At least 1 in Lavilla/North Core area. It's out there on the border, but it's success can attract other business in that area too promote a walkable neighborhood. The biggest attraction downtown Jacksonville needs is an aquarium hands down. This goes back decades, residence have been asking for it. It's been dangled, but like most, it fell through and never progressed more than a rendering. Did some research when Atlanta was doing work on their aquarium, and ended up reading about Charleston's aquarium, which is a bit older in a not so busy city, but the visitor numbers annually is very promising if it were in Jacksonville. Huge win for downtown if it were near the MOSH and entertainment district. We do need a real/true water park as well, either near the new fairgrounds or airport.

We recently got into the cruise business. Growing up in a strong cruise port island that economy is based on tourism; that doesn't do the embark or debark, I wonder how impactful a terminal in downtown Jax would benefit it? We don't have mega ships that come to this area, but it is doable to have ships downtown considering the Super Bowl. A dedicated Royal Caribbean port would be nice next to the new fire house opposite side of Memorial Park. RC are in the process of building a new HQ in Miami. Tampa has a terminal downtown as well.

[thelakelander]

MOSH getting going is mandatory imo. As far as museums, I do believe we need at least 2 - At least 1 in Lavilla/North Core area. It's out there on the border, but it's success can attract other business in that area too promote a walkable neighborhood.

There's a project to revamp the Ritz Theatre & Museum that's currently in the planning stages. There's potential there to take an existing facility and upgrade it into something around the region's Black history and culture that would be special for Jacksonville. It is key to the community's desire to bring back a 1980s vision for a Ritz Theatre District along Davis Street. That vision was dashed in the 1990s when they city tore down all the buildings on Davis.

There's also a 2-story baseball museum and interactive children's playground planned at J.P. Small Field in Durkeeville. That project is tentatively planned to break ground this summer and be completed in October 2027. We're currently working with surrounding commercial property owners and businesses to establish a little mixd-use walkable commercial district centered around the intersection of 8th and Myrtle.

We recently got into the cruise business. Growing up in a strong cruise port island that economy is based on tourism; that doesn't do the embark or debark, I wonder how impactful a terminal in downtown Jax would benefit it? We don't have mega ships that come to this area, but it is doable to have ships downtown considering the Super Bowl. A dedicated Royal Caribbean port would be nice next to the new fire house opposite side of Memorial Park. RC are in the process of building a new HQ in Miami. Tampa has a terminal downtown as well.

There are no bridges restricting ship's access to the port in Miami. Tampa has the Skyway but I believe the clearance is similar to the Dames Point. Unfortunately for downtown Jax, modern cruise ships can't get under the Mathews and Hart Bridges. So a downtown terminal isn't feasible.

[Charles Hunter]

To expand on what thelakelander posted while I was looking up and typing:

The problem with ocean-going cruise ships coming downtown is the height of the Mathews and Hart Bridges. The Mathews has 146 feet of clearance, and the Hart has 141 feet. One of the cruise ships coming to Jacksonville has to time its passage under the Dames Point Bridge (175 feet) to catch the right tides.

Smaller cruise ships can probably pass under those bridges.. For example, some American Cruise Lines ships do occasionally call downtown. These ships mostly operate along the Intracoastal Waterway or in coastal waters.
https://www.americancruiselines.com/

[jaxlongtimer]

People are overlooking our biggest attractions that cost us nothing:

- Beaches - growing every day in stature as they continue to gain a national following. Plus, unlike Jax, the beaches communities have done a great job of building out their commercial areas and investing smartly in their public places.
- St. Johns River - way underappreciated by locals.  Failure to promote use of the waterway is a loss for Downtown and all of Duval.  Lack of interactive public access and turning over publicly owned riverfront properties to developers is killing this missed opportunity for the next 50 to 100 years.
- Timucuan Preserve - also way underappreciated.  There should be ecotours leaving from Downtown that bring this remote area closer to tourists and locals, alike.
- Our history - another underappreciated asset.  We continue to destroy vestiges of it and do little to highlight it.  Most locals don't have a clue about our past so how can we expect visitors to.  MOSH is more focused on the young.  We need a more singular museum:  The Jacksonville History Museum.  I have been to tiny towns that have such museums that do amazing jobs documenting 100 to 200 years of history with just small donations and volunteers.

All of the above just piles on the lack of coherent visioning/long term planning and imagination in our City leadership and community.  Some small progress in recent years, but we are decades behind where we should be, and, at the rate we are going, we will continue to be behind for decades to come, short of a "meteor strike " event in our leadership happening.

[thelakelander]

^I would have loved for them to build a new Science museum on the Northbank and repurpose the existing building as a history museum. Unfortunately, it looks like they are struggling to get a single museum project done.

[Jankelope]

The Jacksonville History Center is working on a very aspirational (but quite small) Museum. I think it will be aspirational despite its smaller size. We need lots of those little things, and a few bigger things.

The Aquariums in Chattanooga seem like a doable option too. 

[Bativac]

People are overlooking our biggest attractions that cost us nothing:

- St. Johns River - way underappreciated by locals.  Failure to promote use of the waterway is a loss for Downtown and all of Duval.  Lack of interactive public access and turning over publicly owned riverfront properties to developers is killing this missed opportunity for the next 50 to 100 years.

The complete absence of riverfront activities is something that shocks and surprises friends and acquaintances who find themselves in Jax. It is wild how a city can have this giant river flowing thru the middle of it but totally fail to capitalize on it. I guess it's hard to keep riverfront businesses and activities open if there's no demand for them.

[thelakelander]

There were several riverfront restaurants operating just fine in the Landing. We got rid of them and tore the place down. I say that to say...we at least know there's a market for riverfront dining in downtown.