It has been a very violent week so far in Jacksonville

Started by pierre, September 27, 2023, 10:36:29 AM

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Captain Zissou

#31
October 16, 2023, 10:03:42 AM Last Edit: October 16, 2023, 10:05:13 AM by Captain Zissou
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2023/10/05/14-year-old-shot-several-cars-burglarized-in-springfield-thursday-morning/

Your post is related to the same incident from last week.  Still bad, but not new.

Captain Zissou

#32
October 16, 2023, 10:10:28 AM
Also the 2 masked men used different cars, but there's a very similar incident that you posted last week where a woman was hit.  The recent article did not say that the two incidents were connected, but unless that's a very common MO then I think it's likely it's the same people.

Ken_FSU

#33
October 16, 2023, 11:01:18 AM Last Edit: October 16, 2023, 11:05:16 AM by Ken_FSU
Quote from: Captain Zissou on October 16, 2023, 10:10:28 AM
Also the 2 masked men used different cars, but there's a very similar incident that you posted last week where a woman was hit.  The recent article did not say that the two incidents were connected, but unless that's a very common MO then I think it's likely it's the same people.

I'm pretty sure that both of these shootings, and possibly the one on Moncrief, are tied to the Ace/Foolio rap beef and each side's respective gang. Foolio survived an attempt on his life a week or two back (he got shot in the leg), and it seems like it's caused all kinds of chaos from both sides. Won't pretend to be an expert, but you can find out more about some of the violence in the city on the DuvalCounty drill subreddit than you can in local media (trigger warning for language and violence, tough to see some of this stuff, but also important to understand how bad things actually are on our streets).

https://www.reddit.com/r/DuvalCounty/top/?t=month

Ken_FSU

#34
October 16, 2023, 11:16:08 AM
P.S. Three more shootings in the last 24 hours.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2023/10/16/1-killed-in-3-shootings-in-jacksonville-in-just-over-24-hours/

Jasper Avenue on Sunday afternoon, man shot in the chest with life-threatening injuries.

Turtle Creek last night, man dead after domestic dispute.

3:30 AM this morning, a bicycler on Norwood robbed and shot in the leg.

BridgeTroll

#35
October 16, 2023, 07:13:59 PM
Quote from: Ken_FSU on October 16, 2023, 11:01:18 AM
Quote from: Captain Zissou on October 16, 2023, 10:10:28 AM
Also the 2 masked men used different cars, but there's a very similar incident that you posted last week where a woman was hit.  The recent article did not say that the two incidents were connected, but unless that's a very common MO then I think it's likely it's the same people.

I'm pretty sure that both of these shootings, and possibly the one on Moncrief, are tied to the Ace/Foolio rap beef and each side's respective gang. Foolio survived an attempt on his life a week or two back (he got shot in the leg), and it seems like it's caused all kinds of chaos from both sides. Won't pretend to be an expert, but you can find out more about some of the violence in the city on the DuvalCounty drill subreddit than you can in local media (trigger warning for language and violence, tough to see some of this stuff, but also important to understand how bad things actually are on our streets).

https://www.reddit.com/r/DuvalCounty/top/?t=month

So why do rappers have gang's and why do they want to kill each other
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

Ken_FSU

#36
October 16, 2023, 07:19:43 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on October 16, 2023, 07:13:59 PM
Quote from: Ken_FSU on October 16, 2023, 11:01:18 AM
Quote from: Captain Zissou on October 16, 2023, 10:10:28 AM
Also the 2 masked men used different cars, but there's a very similar incident that you posted last week where a woman was hit.  The recent article did not say that the two incidents were connected, but unless that's a very common MO then I think it's likely it's the same people.

I'm pretty sure that both of these shootings, and possibly the one on Moncrief, are tied to the Ace/Foolio rap beef and each side's respective gang. Foolio survived an attempt on his life a week or two back (he got shot in the leg), and it seems like it's caused all kinds of chaos from both sides. Won't pretend to be an expert, but you can find out more about some of the violence in the city on the DuvalCounty drill subreddit than you can in local media (trigger warning for language and violence, tough to see some of this stuff, but also important to understand how bad things actually are on our streets).

https://www.reddit.com/r/DuvalCounty/top/?t=month

So why do rappers have gang's and why do they want to kill each other

If you've got the time, this is a shockingly well produced deep dive into the local situation.

https://youtu.be/DyIO3B5EFpM?si=ZM5rW1gKsOg8eHti

BridgeTroll

#37
October 16, 2023, 07:37:24 PM
Atlanta currently has a bunch of rappers on trial as gangsters under RICO laws and of course multiple murders.  Rapper and extreme violence seems to go together...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

Florida Power And Light

#38
October 16, 2023, 08:59:08 PM
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Captain Zissou

#42
October 18, 2023, 11:42:25 AM
Quote from: Ken_FSU on October 16, 2023, 07:19:43 PM
If you've got the time, this is a shockingly well produced deep dive into the local situation.
https://youtu.be/DyIO3B5EFpM?si=ZM5rW1gKsOg8eHti

I'm halfway through this and other than the guy's weird hairpiece it's very interesting and well done.  One of my biggest takeaways is how inept JSO has been throughout the whole thing.  These are the crimes they use to justify their budget and personnel increases and yet they make almost no effort to arrest these guys who are taking credit for the events in their songs and social media posts.  Only when the "wrong" people get hit do they intervene. 

Ken_FSU

#43
October 19, 2023, 04:34:10 PM
Quote from: Captain Zissou on October 18, 2023, 11:42:25 AM
Quote from: Ken_FSU on October 16, 2023, 07:19:43 PM
If you've got the time, this is a shockingly well produced deep dive into the local situation.
https://youtu.be/DyIO3B5EFpM?si=ZM5rW1gKsOg8eHti

I'm halfway through this and other than the guy's weird hairpiece it's very interesting and well done.  One of my biggest takeaways is how inept JSO has been throughout the whole thing.  These are the crimes they use to justify their budget and personnel increases and yet they make almost no effort to arrest these guys who are taking credit for the events in their songs and social media posts.  Only when the "wrong" people get hit do they intervene.

It's bonkers (almost as bonkers as the hairpiece) how open both sides are about the killings, and how little the local media or even police department seem able or willing to connect the dots with some of these crimes that are reported and covered as though they are random, isolated incidents rather than part of a larger situation. You've got to wonder whether they don't know, or they just don't care.
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