DIA wants the Landing to start with a park

[heights unknown]

Alright; get to work, bust ass, and make this thing happen! WE can do this. I love this design, and yes, mimicking the Wells Fargo Building (I love it). Is that gonna be a "follow on" in skyscraper design from now on? It appears they really want this to happen, both sides, and want to find creative ways to make it happen and ensure that it does happen. 486 feet. Why not make it 500 even?

[CityLife]

Not sure yet how I feel about the base somewhat mirroring the Wells Fargo building, but imo it's a big step up from what we've been seeing proposed and built lately.

[jaxlongtimer]

A few more graphics to complete the story:

[acme54321]

That doesn't get built for anything close to $166m in today's climate unless the floor area is a lot less than those renderings suggest. The FIS building was $145M pre COVID...

Looks cool though.

[jaxlongtimer]

^ You may be right but just to play devil's advocate:

If this building comes in at 500,000 sf (the aerial perspective looks like relatively small floor plates), it amounts to $332/sf.  Maybe more, maybe less.  Based on their presentation, they are spending $500,000 a unit.  That is about 60% higher than the typical high end suburban sales I have read about recently although maybe at the Beach or Town Center they are a little higher.  But, those are resales, too, based on cash flow, not actual costs of construction by the developer which, if they are selling at a profit, should be a bit less.

FIS maybe be a much higher number because they built a 1,000 car garage plus, likely, upgraded the building to be "catastrophe proof" and highly secure to protect their ability to deliver uninterrupted critical support that goes with their line of business.  Some of the dollars may also be for furnishings, not the building itself.  Not sure if the FIS number includes buying the dirt or how that is accounted for on the Landing project to make a further comparison.  Lastly, FIS, being in a very competitive tech labor market, may have added high end finishes and amenities to recruit and retain employees.

All the above said, with inflation running high, the developer here likely has an inflation "out" or comeback if costs exceed the preliminary numbers.  No doubt, they know how to insure they don't lose short of a major change in market conditions.  The Daily Record notes they want to pay only $100K/yr in property taxes vs. $2.4 million/yr over 40 years so they may have plenty of coverage for overruns right there if the City caves on that .

[JaGoaT]

I like the building but not on that site. We ask for clustering but I think that building clutters the area.

[jaxlongtimer]

^ You could say the building is literally and figuratively a "wedge" ! 

I like the design but share your concern.  It looks to overwhelm the site.  It also looks like the design might be too forced - to meet DIA's requirements while also working hard to not interfere with the river views of Wells Fargo tenants.  The similarities of the widened based with the Wells Fargo building also strikes me as too much of a good thing that close together.

At the risk of Field & Co. jumping my case, I think seeing this concept reinforces why the entire parcel should be green space with maybe some one story retail/amenities blended in.  I would love to see this building on another block of the core.  Maybe on the larger surface lot parcel (per Google map measurements) across from the Times Union Center and next to the Omni/Marriott.  With its tower, residents could easily have a river view over the top of the T-U center and Landing park too.

[landfall]

Lol I'll crack the jokes this will never get built. Just more renderings.

[Lostwave]

Agreed, that building is way to awesome to get built here, let alone anywhere.

[vicupstate]

"There are a lot of metrics here we find very similar to Nashville almost 10, 12, 13 years ago and they exploded," Fetner said.

Mr. Fetner would be wise to compare the competence (or the lack thereof) of city leadership in Nashville to Jacksonville.

Let's not kid ourselves, this is never going to get built.

[ralpho37]

vicupstate - You hit the nail on the head. The ineptitude of our local government is what is holding this city back. As amazing as this rendering is, I give it a 1% of ever breaking ground.

[jaxjags]

I like the design. It interfaces with the park at many levels, including where the Main Street ramp will be. It follows the orientation requirements and fits and looks much better than a square building with elevated gardens and restaurants. I think the mimic of Wells Fargo is fine and makes the interface to the park smooth and seamless. Plus, it is an interesting building that does not exist in JAX.

I like the development team's enthusiasm for this project, but if you look at all three companies project history this may be one of their bigger endeavors.

If this is accepted, I encourage the DIA to get the park, The Hardwick and this project moving.

[Ken_FSU]

If this is accepted, I encourage the DIA to get the park, The Hardwick and this project moving.

Time's ticking.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/26/economy/inflation-recession-economy-deutsche-bank/index.html

[BridgeTroll]

Looks like a Mooneyhan project...

https://www.metrojacksonville.com/forum/index.php/topic,3211.0.html

[heights unknown]

Not sure yet how I feel about the base somewhat mirroring the Wells Fargo building, but imo it's a big step up from what we've been seeing proposed and built lately.

Is it just me, or does this building look much more thinner and slender than in the initial renderings? Will this be a fat building or slender one like this photo/rendering? Btw, I'll bet it gets built. And...I think, if I am not wrong, the City was the one that wanted a tower on that specific parcel of land. I think if built, that location for me is just fine. Can't have a river view from all tall buildings downtown.