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Will Russia invade Ukraine?

Started by BridgeTroll, January 14, 2022, 12:53:36 PM

BridgeTroll

Spot on editorial... from the Germans...

The invasion of Ukraine marks the beginning of a dangerous new era in global politics. Europe must adapt to this new reality if it wants to survive.

https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/russia-s-invasion-putin-s-attack-is-aimed-at-europe-a-15d72864-f2ab-45e5-942d-f64dc8aac3e0
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

#76
Response from Dmitry Rogozin, director general of Roscosmos to Biden's "Alzheimer's sanctions" on Russia space program and future cooperation...

Quote"Biden said the new sanctions would affect the Russian space program. OK. It remains to find out the details: 1. Do you want to block our access to radiation-resistant space microelectronics? So you already did it quite officially in 2014.As you noticed, we, nevertheless, continue to make our own spacecraft. And we will do them by expanding the production of the necessary components and devices at home.

"2. Do you want to ban all countries from launching their spacecraft on the most reliable Russian rockets in the world? This is how you are already doing it and are planning to finally destroy the world market of space competition from January 1, 2023 by imposing sanctions on our launch vehicles. We are aware. This is also not news. We are ready to act here too.

"Do you want to destroy our cooperation on the ISS? This is how you already do it by limiting exchanges between our cosmonaut and astronaut training centers. Or do you want to manage the ISS yourself? Maybe President Biden is off topic, so explain to him that the correction of the station's orbit, its avoidance of dangerous rendezvous with space ..garbage, with which your talented businessmen have polluted the near-Earth orbit, is produced exclusively by the engines of the Russian Progress MS cargo ships. If you block cooperation with us, who will save the ISS from an uncontrolled deorbit and fall into the United States or...Europe? There is also the option of dropping a 500-ton structure to India and China. Do you want to threaten them with such a prospect? The ISS does not fly over Russia, so all the risks are yours. Are you ready for them?

"Gentlemen, when planning sanctions, check those who generate them for illness Alzheimer's. Just in case. To prevent your sanctions from falling on your head. And not only in a figurative sense. Therefore, for the time being, as a partner, I suggest that you do not behave like an irresponsible gamer, disavow the statement about "Alzheimer's sanctions". Friendly advice"
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

MusicMan

It's a shame NATO didn't move 500 snipers into Kiev over the last month. That could have been done quietly and would have caused enormous casualties to the Russians. They never know what hit them.

MusicMan

Fascinating reporting on Putin and his rise to power on WJCT today. Some is rebroadcast from earlier stories.

acme54321

Germany announced they were sending a 500(?) stinger missiles into Ukraine.  Poland too.  Extremely effective shoulder launched SAM.

BridgeTroll

Quote from: acme54321 on February 26, 2022, 02:44:09 PM
Germany announced they were sending a 500(?) stinger missiles into Ukraine.  Poland too.  Extremely effective shoulder launched SAM.
Germany was finally shamed into contributing... better late than never.  Over the past 20+ years they have gutted a once effective deterrent armed forces...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

MusicMan

I'm more convinced than ever Trump would have endorsed this move by Putin. He idolizes the guy.

BridgeTroll

Quote from: MusicMan on February 26, 2022, 05:44:13 PM
I'm more convinced than ever Trump would have endorsed this move by Putin. He idolizes the guy.
I think he already called him a genius...

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/24/politics/donald-trump-praises-putin/index.html
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

fsu813

Quote from: MusicMan on February 26, 2022, 05:44:13 PM
I'm more convinced than ever Trump would have endorsed this move by Putin. He idolizes the guy.

Likely not endorsed, but equivacated. Much like he did with the Saudi murder of the Washington Post journalist.


acme54321

All I know is for the sake of our city in particular, I pray this thing doesn't spill out of Ukraine.

BridgeTroll

Quote from: acme54321 on February 26, 2022, 11:26:32 PM
All I know is for the sake of our city in particular, I pray this thing doesn't spill out of Ukraine.
Ships from Mayport, and aircraft from NAS are mixing it up with the Russians all around the periphery of this  conflict...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

BridgeTroll

In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

MusicMan

Yes, outstanding observations.  David Rennie of The Economist, who is a frequetnt NPR contributor, also gives excellent unvarnished reporting on international politics.

Question heard at work: "Are the Balkans next?"