Will Russia invade Ukraine?

[BridgeTroll]

In any event, Adam... you will always stick up for dictators and communists... And people like you are going to be the death of us all.

I don't stick up for dictators or 'communists'. In fact, I have stated I oppose this invasion. But reading and logic were never your strong suit.

You really should direct your anger at Putin... lashing out at me is easier for you I suppose... have at it.  Equivocating Russian invasion of a peaceful democracy and anything you described above is just emotional silliness.

[Adam White]

In any event, Adam... you will always stick up for dictators and communists... And people like you are going to be the death of us all.

I don't stick up for dictators or 'communists'. In fact, I have stated I oppose this invasion. But reading and logic were never your strong suit.

You really should direct your anger at Putin... lashing out at me is easier for you I suppose... have at it.  Equivocating Russian invasion of a peaceful democracy and anything you described above is just emotional silliness.

It's very "BridgeTroll" of you to completely miss the point of a post. And to twist someone's words. You're a regular Stephen Dare - but without the flair, sadly.

[BridgeTroll]

In any event, Adam... you will always stick up for dictators and communists... And people like you are going to be the death of us all.

I don't stick up for dictators or 'communists'. In fact, I have stated I oppose this invasion. But reading and logic were never your strong suit.

You really should direct your anger at Putin... lashing out at me is easier for you I suppose... have at it.  Equivocating Russian invasion of a peaceful democracy and anything you described above is just emotional silliness.

It's very "BridgeTroll" of you to completely miss the point of a post. And to twist someone's words. You're a regular Stephen Dare - but without the flair, sadly.

Oh... I found is here you "condemned Putin"... strong stuff...

The Cold War never ended. And what's happening in Ukraine is terrible.

[Adam White]

Oh... I found is here you "condemned Putin"... strong stuff...

The Cold War never ended. And what's happening in Ukraine is terrible.

You missed a bit there, didn't you?

"The Cold War never ended. And what's happening in Ukraine is terrible. But let's not kid ourselves - this is the sort of thing that Great Powers do. They make up lies as a pretext for doing what they wanted to. They don't let anything stand in the way."

So, as I said, the war is terrible and it is predicated on lies. It was a foregone conclusion.

And I also said:

"So ordinary people will continue to suffer because of decisions made in Moscow, Washington, Beijing, London, Paris, etc."

So, as you can see, I have taken an anti-Moscow line. But I guess me being critical of NATO as well as being critical of Moscow and Beijing means I am secretly pro-Moscow and Beijing.

[BridgeTroll]

Hmmm... ok... I  also have been critical of NATO.  Expanding into the Baltics was a overreach in my opinion and encouraging Ukraine was bound to be a problem...

[Adam White]

Hmmm... ok... I  also have been critical of NATO.  Expanding into the Baltics was a overreach in my opinion and encouraging Ukraine was bound to be a problem...

I agree with you there, BT. The thought that any one nation could dictate terms to another is repulsive to me - but then again, there is a certain element of realpolitik that we must not lose sight of. And Russia doesn't really see Ukraine and Belarus as 'real' countries. They view them as part of Russia. I think Ukraine's NATO ambitions were a step too far, but there is also the possibility that Putin is using the NATO angle as a pretext.

Regardless of any of that, the people of Ukraine are going to suffer (and possibly suffer very, very badly). And the world just got a lot closer to nuclear war. On the upside, maybe this means we don't have to worry about climate change so much.

[BridgeTroll]

There are many NATO forces and Russian forces rubbing elbows in the Mediterranean, Black sea, North Atlantic and Baltic sea... hopefully no one makes a mistake...

[Adam White]

There are many NATO forces and Russian forces rubbing elbows in the Mediterranean, Black sea, North Atlantic and Baltic sea... hopefully no one makes a mistake...

Yeah, it's very worrisome. And the rhetoric is going to be quite heated over the coming days. I don't think it's likely that Russia will withdraw. But I don't want to see this conflict escalate. I really don't know what an 'acceptable' but realistic outcome would be. Maybe Russia absorbs the Donbas(s) region or something. But I suspect their ambitions are greater than that. And they've been needling the Baltic republics for a while now - but surely they know that will lead to a massive war?

[BridgeTroll]

Actually... my hope is that Ukraine puts up a staunch resistance causing anti Putin general's and politicians to overthrow that maniac. Of course that has its own problems..

Don't forget... China is watching closely...

[Adam White]

Actually... my hope is that Ukraine puts up a staunch resistance causing anti Putin general's and politicians to overthrow that maniac. Of course that has its own problems..

I had seen a story saying there was some disquiet in the military. Maybe this whole thing will be his undoing. I doubt it, though.

[Charles Hunter]

The entire world is condemning Putin except China, North Korea,... and Adam....

... and the Former Guy isn't condemning his pal's actions

"I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, 'This is genius.' Putin declares a big portion of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful," Trump told a conservative podcaster in an interview published Tuesday.

"I said, 'How smart is that?' And he's gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border," the former president said, describing Putin as "a guy who's very savvy" and whom he knows "very, very well."

[BridgeTroll]

The entire world is condemning Putin except China, North Korea,... and Adam....

... and the Former Guy isn't condemning his pal's actions

"I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, 'This is genius.' Putin declares a big portion of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful," Trump told a conservative podcaster in an interview published Tuesday.

"I said, 'How smart is that?' And he's gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border," the former president said, describing Putin as "a guy who's very savvy" and whom he knows "very, very well."

Hopefully quotes like that exposes that moron for what he is...

[Charles Hunter]

The entire world is condemning Putin except China, North Korea,... and Adam....

... and the Former Guy isn't condemning his pal's actions

"I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, 'This is genius.' Putin declares a big portion of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful," Trump told a conservative podcaster in an interview published Tuesday.

"I said, 'How smart is that?' And he's gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border," the former president said, describing Putin as "a guy who's very savvy" and whom he knows "very, very well."

Hopefully quotes like that exposes that moron for what he is...

Have any of his allies in Congress, or certain Governor's offices, repudiated his comments?  Those who don't are complicit in his endorsement of the invasion of an independent democracy by a totalitarian dictator, and the thousands of lives that will be lost.
I have a feeling not many of those who don't already think him a moron will suddenly have an epiphany.

[MusicMan]

Looking like Fox News is on board with Trump's assessment. 

Jeez, if we only had a strong Prez like Putin, imagine how cool that would be....

[BridgeTroll]

Looking like Fox News is on board with Trump's assessment. 

Jeez, if we only had a strong Prez like Putin, imagine how cool that would be....

I haven't heard that but I don't get my news from them...