COVID Again Rampant in Jax

[BridgeTroll]

You guys are not seeing the whole forest... my read is add up the folks with bachelor degrees and up... you have over 50% of college educated vaccine hesitancy... add in the some college crowd and the numbers are very large leaving the uneducated as a distinctly small minority...

[BridgeTroll]

This will help with vaccination rates...

[Adam White]

You guys are not seeing the whole forest... my read is add up the folks with bachelor degrees and up... you have over 50% of college educated vaccine hesitancy... add in the some college crowd and the numbers are very large leaving the uneducated as a distinctly small minority...

Oh, BT....you might want to work on your math

Yes, 11 + 8.3 + 12.3 + 23.9 = 55.5. But that doesn't mean 55.5% of college educated people are vaccine hesitant. Because, by that logic, 344.5% of college educated people are not vaccine hesitant! (add 89 + 91.7 + 87.7 + 76.1)

What you want to do is figure out what percentage 55.5 is of 400.

Spoiler alert: it's 13.875%

So 13.875% of people with bachelor's degrees (or higher) are vaccine hesitant. So college grads are overwhelmingly pro-vaccine.

But, again, these percentages are relatively meaningless without the numbers.

According to this article (https://www.bestcolleges.com/news/analysis/2021/07/01/how-many-americans-have-college-degrees/) 42% of Americans have some sort of college degree (associate's degree or higher). So, let's assume that 'some college' is all people with an AA/AS, then we're looking at approximately 14.76% of people with an AA/AS or higher are vaccine hesitant. 14.76% of 42% = approximately 6.2% of Americans. This is in contrast to 20.8% of 58% of the population that don't have degrees, which is approximately 12.1% of Americans.

So, in terms of numbers, there are almost twice as many people without college degrees who are vaccine hesitant than there are people with some sort of college degree that are vaccine hesitant.

I think.

[BridgeTroll]

Why 400?  The percentages in the graphic add up to 100... please explain

[Charles Hunter]

Unless you know the number of people in each of the groups in BT's chart, it is meaningless to add the percentages and reach any sort of conclusion. Since the chart is provided without context, it is impossible to make any statements about what it means.
For example, I am willing to bet that there are more people in the "High School or Less" category than in the "PhD" category, enough so that the lower percentage of HS actually represents more people than the higher percentage of PhD folk. But again, without the source data or a link to it, it is impossible to tell. 

The chart is meaningless.

[BridgeTroll]

Ok... that probably holds true for most graphics flashed across the screen...

Here is the link to the original article...

https://unherd.com/thepost/the-most-vaccine-hesitant-education-group-of-all-phds/

[Adam White]

Why 400?  The percentages in the graphic add up to 100... please explain

Think about the inverse and maybe it will make it clearer.

11% of people with bachelor's degrees are vaccine hesitant. But what if we expressed this data as a percentage of each group that WASN'T vaccine hesitant? The graph would show 89%, 91.7%, 87.7% and 76.1%. If you use your method, if you added up the percentage of people who AREN'T vaccine hesitant (for those four groups), you get 344.5% who aren't vaccine hesitant. That's not possible, of course.

(Also, the numbers don't add up to 100 - or maybe I need to change the batteries in my calculator).

Another way of looking at it:

2 of 5 people (40%) of my family are male. 2 of 5 people (40%) of my wife's family are male. If you add the percentages up using your method, you'd say 80% of our family members are male. But no - you could say 80 of 200 (4 out of 10 combined) - or 40% total. Not 80 of 100.

[BridgeTroll]

Why 400?  The percentages in the graphic add up to 100... please explain

Think about the inverse and maybe it will make it clearer.

11% of people with bachelor's degrees are vaccine hesitant. But what if we expressed this data as a percentage of each group that WASN'T vaccine hesitant? The graph would show 89%, 91.7%, 87.7% and 76.1%. If you use your method, if you added up the percentage of people who AREN'T vaccine hesitant (for those four groups), you get 344.5% who aren't vaccine hesitant. That's not possible, of course.

(Also, the numbers don't add up to 100 - or maybe I need to change the batteries in my calculator).

Another way of looking at it:

2 of 5 people (40%) of my family are male. 2 of 5 people (40%) of my wife's family are male. If you add the percentages up using your method, you'd say 80% of our family members are male. But no - you could say 80 of 200 (4 out of 10 combined) - or 40% total. Not 80 of 100.

Outstanding!!  I certainly appreciate the math lesson! I  assure you that I am vaccinated and NOT hesitant...

[Adam White]

Why 400?  The percentages in the graphic add up to 100... please explain

Think about the inverse and maybe it will make it clearer.

11% of people with bachelor's degrees are vaccine hesitant. But what if we expressed this data as a percentage of each group that WASN'T vaccine hesitant? The graph would show 89%, 91.7%, 87.7% and 76.1%. If you use your method, if you added up the percentage of people who AREN'T vaccine hesitant (for those four groups), you get 344.5% who aren't vaccine hesitant. That's not possible, of course.

(Also, the numbers don't add up to 100 - or maybe I need to change the batteries in my calculator).

Another way of looking at it:

2 of 5 people (40%) of my family are male. 2 of 5 people (40%) of my wife's family are male. If you add the percentages up using your method, you'd say 80% of our family members are male. But no - you could say 80 of 200 (4 out of 10 combined) - or 40% total. Not 80 of 100.

Outstanding!!  I certainly appreciate the math lesson! I  assure you that I am vaccinated and NOT hesitant...

Me too. Well, I am hesitant about mixing too much with people because I have only *so much* confidence in this vaccine stopping the delta variant!

[BridgeTroll]

Me too... went out for dinner last night early... by the time we left I felt like I had bugs crawling on me... ugh.

[Adam White]

Me too... went out for dinner last night early... by the time we left I felt like I had bugs crawling on me... ugh.

Yeah, I get the sniffles or a slightly scratchy throat and start wondering whether I should order a test. However, both of my kids were sick recently and had negative tests - so it goes to show that you can still get sick these days and it can be your garden variety cold.

A little over a month ago, my wife was deathly ill. She clearly had COVID Delta symptoms, so we ordered a test. It was negative. But she ended up in hospital for a week with bacterial meningitis! She's okay now - and we've no idea how she got that. Which is a bit troubling - we've done our best to avoid public places, etc unless absolutely necessary and she gets meningitis. I guess anything's possible and you're only ever so safe, really.

[BridgeTroll]

This looks to be a better chart of the vaccination demographics...

[Adam White]

And one thing these graphs always show is that most people are pro vaccine.

[bl8jaxnative]

If pro and anti are nothing but the overly simplistic notion of "ya got one", then ya.

But the real world ain't that simple.

[MusicMan]

Whole lotta people paying the ultimate price for what?

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/education/2021/08/16/river-city-science-academy-teacher-nicole-hollis-dies-covid-19/8148944002/?csp=chromepush

From the article: "River City Science Academy, a charter school, does not publish how many COVID-19 cases are impacting students or faculty."   Hmmmmm.. The irony here is thick. A science academy?