COVID Again Rampant in Jax

[BridgeTroll]

You may not die but hospitalization is expensive...

https://www.wesh.com/article/central-florida-doctor-cost-of-covid-19-care/37148292#

According to a review of costs associated with COVID-19 care, the national independent nonprofit Fair Health published a report late last year saying "an average COVID hospitalization with complications costs roughly $156,000 for someone with insurance with a basic COVID hospital stay costing about $29,000."   

[Adam White]

You may not die but hospitalization is expensive...

https://www.wesh.com/article/central-florida-doctor-cost-of-covid-19-care/37148292#

According to a review of costs associated with COVID-19 care, the national independent nonprofit Fair Health published a report late last year saying "an average COVID hospitalization with complications costs roughly $156,000 for someone with insurance with a basic COVID hospital stay costing about $29,000."   

Reminds me of when my friend broke his arm at a bar and went home to sleep it off. The next morning he realised how bad he was hurt and went to hospital. Because of the wait, he ended up with a $30K bill from the hospital (no insurance).

[BridgeTroll]

Does the Wall street journal count as right wing talking points?  Probably yes in your world but...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/border-covid-illegal-undocumented-immigration-testing-biden-harris-11628023571

The WSJ isn't 'right wing talking points' in the same way the Huffington Post isn't the 'liberal media'.

How about NBC?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/18-percent-migrant-families-leaving-border-patrol-custody-tested-positive-n1276244

[Adam White]

Does the Wall street journal count as right wing talking points?  Probably yes in your world but...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/border-covid-illegal-undocumented-immigration-testing-biden-harris-11628023571

The WSJ isn't 'right wing talking points' in the same way the Huffington Post isn't the 'liberal media'.

How about NBC?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/18-percent-migrant-families-leaving-border-patrol-custody-tested-positive-n1276244

No idea. I'm simply pointing out that the WSJ is easily as biased as HuffPo. Hell, they openly state they are pro-capitalism. That's right wing by default.

[BridgeTroll]

Lol...

[Adam White]

Lol...

[jaxoNOLE]

DeSantis' strange fight with the cruise industry--which he tried to straw-man into a fight with the CDC--deals a blow to his vaccine passport ban. If FL appeals this to the Supreme Court and loses, DeSantis will have provided the test case that ultimately leads to a national green light for businesses to require proof of vaccination if they so choose. Kind of ironic that an unintended consequence of pandering to a supposedly Republican base could result in the -- unwanted? -- protection of private interests to control access to their establishments. I wonder how that figures into the political calculation for him.

A federal judge on Sunday night sided with Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings in a fight with Florida over vaccine passports, granting the cruise line's request for a preliminary injunction that blocks a state law barring businesses from requiring proof of vaccination.

In a nearly 60-page ruling, U.S. District Judge Kathleen Williams stated that Florida "fails to provide a valid evidentiary, factual, or legal predicate" for its prohibition on vaccine passports.

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2021/08/08/federal-judge-sides-with-norwegian-cruise-line-in-fight-with-florida-over-vaccine-passports-1389732

As an aside, I haven't read the ruling, but the article makes it sound like the injunction is quite broad.

[tufsu1]

Does the Wall street journal count as right wing talking points?  Probably yes in your world but...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/border-covid-illegal-undocumented-immigration-testing-biden-harris-11628023571

The WSJ isn't 'right wing talking points' in the same way the Huffington Post isn't the 'liberal media'.

How about NBC?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/18-percent-migrant-families-leaving-border-patrol-custody-tested-positive-n1276244

the 18% matches Florida right now (and lower than Jax) - perhaps we should all be deported too?

[BridgeTroll]

Does the Wall street journal count as right wing talking points?  Probably yes in your world but...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/border-covid-illegal-undocumented-immigration-testing-biden-harris-11628023571

The WSJ isn't 'right wing talking points' in the same way the Huffington Post isn't the 'liberal media'.

How about NBC?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/18-percent-migrant-families-leaving-border-patrol-custody-tested-positive-n1276244

the 18% matches Florida right now (and lower than Jax) - perhaps we should all be deported too?

Well that's just silly. The contention is that Desantis isn't doing "everything " he can to protect the public. While that criticism might be fair it is also true that the President isn't doing "everything " he can either. We all know politics come into play for virtually all decisions at the executive level...

Canada closed the borders with the US... not sure why the border with Mexico cannot be closed...

[vicupstate]

Does the Wall street journal count as right wing talking points?  Probably yes in your world but...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/border-covid-illegal-undocumented-immigration-testing-biden-harris-11628023571

The WSJ isn't 'right wing talking points' in the same way the Huffington Post isn't the 'liberal media'.

How about NBC?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/18-percent-migrant-families-leaving-border-patrol-custody-tested-positive-n1276244

the 18% matches Florida right now (and lower than Jax) - perhaps we should all be deported too?

Well that's just silly. The contention is that Desantis isn't doing "everything " he can to protect the public. While that criticism might be fair it is also true that the President isn't doing "everything " he can either. We all know politics come into play for virtually all decisions at the executive level...

Canada closed the borders with the US... not sure why the border with Mexico cannot be closed...

Are you aware of the standard of living in Canada vs. Mexico?

DeSantis is not JUST 'not doing everything he can', he is ACTIVELY and DELIBERATELY making the situation worse, which is clearly evidenced by the fact that FL has the highest levels of Covid in the country.  You certainly cannot say that about Biden, and as has already been pointed out, he has less power to enact a mask or vaccine mandate.

[BridgeTroll]

Does the Wall street journal count as right wing talking points?  Probably yes in your world but...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/border-covid-illegal-undocumented-immigration-testing-biden-harris-11628023571

The WSJ isn't 'right wing talking points' in the same way the Huffington Post isn't the 'liberal media'.

How about NBC?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/18-percent-migrant-families-leaving-border-patrol-custody-tested-positive-n1276244

the 18% matches Florida right now (and lower than Jax) - perhaps we should all be deported too?

Well that's just silly. The contention is that Desantis isn't doing "everything " he can to protect the public. While that criticism might be fair it is also true that the President isn't doing "everything " he can either. We all know politics come into play for virtually all decisions at the executive level...

Canada closed the borders with the US... not sure why the border with Mexico cannot be closed...

Are you aware of the standard of living in Canada vs. Mexico?

DeSantis is not JUST 'not doing everything he can', he is ACTIVELY and DELIBERATELY making the situation worse, which is clearly evidenced by the fact that FL has the highest levels of Covid in the country.  You certainly cannot say that about Biden, and as has already been pointed out, he has less power to enact a mask or vaccine mandate.

Hmm... seems like a double standard to me. Biden makes a political policy decision to favor his voters but when desantis does the same he is vilified. Not surprised... just sayin...

[WAJAS]

BridgeTroll, what's your take on the talk that Biden might require proof of vaccination to travel to the US? It'd quell the worry about the southern border introducing more COVID.

[BridgeTroll]

I'm actually in favor of those requirements. I would like to see those vaccination cards put to use within the borders for travel... but then I also think voter registration ID cards are a good thing too so....

[MusicMan]

The Southern border story is BS. 

[jaxlongtimer]

Canada closed the borders with the US... not sure why the border with Mexico cannot be closed...

Trump tried "closing" the border with Mexico and didn't get it done.  Even his "wall" was a failure.  The reality is comparing the borders of Canada and Mexico are apples and oranges. 

Canadians seem to be mostly content with their county's living conditions and aren't "dying" to migrate to the U.S. (in fact, more American's might prefer to migrate to Canada at times  ).

On the other hand, those coming across the Mexican border are desperate due to unchecked crime, abuse and devastating living conditions that threaten their very survival.  Most all global migrations share the same motivations and no country can totally seal their physical borders.  These people are going to keep coming until conditions improve in their homelands as they have nothing to lose trying to get to the U.S. regardless of being "illegal" or returned to their homelands.  Look at our own ancestors (aside from those brought as slaves or Native Americans) that migrated here and tell me they weren't similarly motivated.  Most may have been legal because they had to schedule an ocean or air trip that is easier for the U.S. to monitor.  If we were physically connected or closer to Asia or Europe, I have no doubt we would have similar issues with other nations (e.g see African migrations across the Mediterranean, Syrians into Turkey and migrations in Southeast Asia from Myanmar.  Now we can add Afghanistan).

Trump with his GOP Congress had no policies to support or advocate for such improvements to these homelands and so here we are.  Congress needs to approve a bipartisan and long term plan that addresses the motivating issues.  Until then, nothing will change.  Biden can't get Congress to agree to much even when he tries to appease Republicans due to GOP obstructionism for no other reason than trying to make Biden look weak.  They are not true patriots but political hacks and have often admitted as much.  Just look at McConnell saying he will not approve any Supreme Court justice nominated by Biden no matter what.   That says it all right there.