COVID Again Rampant in Jax

Started by jaxlongtimer, July 07, 2021, 06:57:53 PM

jaxlongtimer

#225
BridgeTroll, see today's sample quotes from DeSantis below and tell me he (1) isn't in denial (2) isn't fanning the desires of the unvaccinated to not get vaccinated and (3) isn't outright lying.  All this as hospitals are at capacity, turning away patients and begging poeple to get vaccinated and wear masks.  His behavior is now totally indefensible! And, despicable!

QuoteFlorida Gov. Ron DeSantis defended unvaccinated people who were getting sick from COVID-19, saying the media was being "judgmental."

"When somebody contracts a highly transmissible airborne virus, they're viewed as having done something wrong," he said. "And that's just not the way you do it when people come in, you treat them. Are you going to sit there and criticize, or are we going to try to treat, and try to help the folks? Nobody's trying to get ill here," the report said.

DeSantis railed against the press during the briefing, WESH reported, and accused journalists of fearmongering about the pandemic that has claimed over 600,000 American lives.

DeSantis said Florida's hospitals were "open for business" as he spoke to the press on Tuesday.

"Even in places that have more, COVID patients represent a fraction of the overall hospital beds and I don't want to see a repeat, that people with heart problems don't go in [to hospitals],"
he said, WESH reported. "With all due respect, I find that deplorable to blame a victim who ends up being hospitalized. You don't know their story. You don't know what happened."

https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-gov-desantis-unvaccinated-people-testing-positive-for-covid-2021-8?amp

MusicMan

#226
Yeah the problem is it's a one way conversation. No questions. No answers. He's a piece of  _________.

Talk about government overreach...  what a joke :

https://www.fox13news.com/news/desantis-threatens-to-withhold-funding-from-school-districts-who-mandate-masks

Am I the only person tired of the Trump base dictating public health policy? The same folks (Trump) who ignored it from the beginning?

BridgeTroll

I am not thrilled with his decision and stand regarding school children. They cannot get the vaccine and remote classrooms are no longer an option.  At least let local school boards the option to require masks. These types of mandates are at least enforceable.   
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

vicupstate


Gov. Asa Hutchinson (R-AR) says he regrets signing law banning local mask mandates, as COVID cases quickly rise in his state.

"In hindsight, I wish that had not become law," said Hutchinson, who has asked lawmakers to allow school districts to adopt mask mandates.


https://twitter.com/KenTremendous/status/1422899014496919554?s=20
"The problem with quotes on the internet is you can never be certain they're authentic." - Abraham Lincoln

Snaketoz

I predict that DeSantis will soften his iron fist shortly.  A poll out the last few days shows Charlie Crist has a slight lead in polling.  The rules DeSantis has rolled-out are purely political, so when the polls shows he's losing ground he will change his tune.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot."

BridgeTroll

I guess the good news is that he isn't Andrew Cuomo...lol
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

jaxlongtimer

Quote from: BridgeTroll on August 04, 2021, 10:23:20 AM
I guess the good news is that he isn't Andrew Cuomo...lol

Sexual harassment is inexcusable and Cuomo needs to suffer the consequences.  But taking actions that lead to more death and extreme misery is a far worse offense and, likewise, DeSantis should suffer proportional consequences.  Impeachment would be a good starting point.

I can't imagine being a parent to a school aged child and being worried about COVID in the schools.  Not only that my child might get it and suffer lifetime and/or severe consequences, but that they might bring it home and infect the rest of the family.  I would seriously have to consider keeping my child at home without a mask mandate which, itself, has negative consequences.  DeSantis is putting parents in a precarious position.  I am surprised he would take the added political risk of losing most every parent in the state's support.  There is nothing more risky, politically, than messing with children's welfare.

MusicMan

More DeSantis BS...........................

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ron-desantis-ice-cream-coronavirus_n_610a1f9ae4b064678eeed1ff

Remember how Repubs  shut down Major League Baseball, ruined Coke and Nike with THEIR cancel culture?

BridgeTroll

Unfortunately the national media focus on DeSantis is simply a redirection from the train wrecks of Newsome and Cuomo in California and New York... Impeachment and recalls... is DeSantis next?
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

Charles Hunter

Florida Constitution does not provide for the recall of the Governor. And, absent Desantis abandoning Trump and endorsing Biden and AOC, I don't see the Very Red Legislature impeaching him.

Adam White

Quote from: BridgeTroll on August 04, 2021, 12:54:42 PM
Unfortunately the national media focus on DeSantis is simply a redirection from the train wrecks of Newsome and Cuomo in California and New York... Impeachment and recalls... is DeSantis next?

Coverage of DeSantis *might* also be linked to the fact that FL is the worst performing state COVID-wise at the moment...

But I guess conspiracy theories are more fun.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

vicupstate

Quote from: Adam White on August 04, 2021, 02:02:34 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on August 04, 2021, 12:54:42 PM
Unfortunately the national media focus on DeSantis is simply a redirection from the train wrecks of Newsome and Cuomo in California and New York... Impeachment and recalls... is DeSantis next?

Coverage of DeSantis *might* also be linked to the fact that FL is the worst performing state COVID-wise at the moment...

But I guess conspiracy theories are more fun.

+100
"The problem with quotes on the internet is you can never be certain they're authentic." - Abraham Lincoln

Adam White

#237
Quote from: vicupstate on August 04, 2021, 02:18:07 PM
Quote from: Adam White on August 04, 2021, 02:02:34 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on August 04, 2021, 12:54:42 PM
Unfortunately the national media focus on DeSantis is simply a redirection from the train wrecks of Newsome and Cuomo in California and New York... Impeachment and recalls... is DeSantis next?

Coverage of DeSantis *might* also be linked to the fact that FL is the worst performing state COVID-wise at the moment...

But I guess conspiracy theories are more fun.

+100

I mean, it's not like the news isn't covering Newsome and Cuomo. It's totally possible to cover more than two stories, you know?

And then there's this:



and this:

"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

jaxoNOLE

#238
^Check out Nebraska, absolutely killing it. Is that infograph per-capita? You could almost retitle that whole thing, "Vaccines work!"

DeSantis' response to COVID last fall was at least debatable, given Florida's middle-of-the-road COVID statistics. His current response, given the circumstances we now face, is atrocious. I thought the following NYT article was very interesting and raises the specter that a lot more luck and/or unknowns about the virus may be influencing the duration, location, spread, and severity of our various outbreaks. Maybe Florida has just been lucky up until now. Maybe even with strict measures in place, Florida would still have ended up going through a surge this summer (like Michigan did earlier this year). But once you are in a surge, steps to mitigate it have to be taken, and DeSantis is not only failing to do so, but is preventing others from doing so.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/30/briefing/coronavirus-delta-mysteries.html

Florida should be able to funnel vaccine mandates and mask mandates down through most anything that receives direct state funding or is state-run. Fail to comply? Lose your funding for as long as you remain out of compliance or, for essential state services, be required to follow other transmission mitigation steps in lieu of vaccination.  Let court challenges on constitutionality address any issues there. Beyond that, unshackle private entities and allow them to protect themselves and their customers as they see fit (hard to believe we have to ask for that from a supposed Republican). 

The alternatives are widespread death or returning to lockdowns. Neither of these allow more freedom than the above.

BridgeTroll

Quote from: vicupstate on August 04, 2021, 02:18:07 PM
Quote from: Adam White on August 04, 2021, 02:02:34 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on August 04, 2021, 12:54:42 PM
Unfortunately the national media focus on DeSantis is simply a redirection from the train wrecks of Newsome and Cuomo in California and New York... Impeachment and recalls... is DeSantis next?

Coverage of DeSantis *might* also be linked to the fact that FL is the worst performing state COVID-wise at the moment...

But I guess conspiracy theories are more fun.

+100

Lol... what conspiracy?  They are train wrecks...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."