Dennis + Ives proposed for Rail Yard District

[thelakelander]

Plans are being made to retrofit a large Rail Yard District warehouse complex into a mixed-use project featuring a brewery, tap room, restaurant, cafe and office space. Here is a look at the full graphics package and a brief summary of what's proposed.

Read More: https://www.thejaxsonmag.com/article/dennis-ives-proposed-for-rail-yard-district/

[jcjohnpaint]

Nice.  Feel like tennis courts and restaurant should flip spots.

[Charles Hunter]

Nice.  Feel like tennis courts and restaurant should flip spots.

"Tennis courts"?  Are you talking about the "pickle ball court"?  Why would you flip the locations? The pickle ball court appears to be almost under an I-95 on-ramp, in a back corner - as related to surface street access - of the site.  The restaurant has street frontage.

[Charles Hunter]

Depending on the development of treatments and vaccines for COVID-19, they may want to rethink that Open Office concept.  Anyway, some are saying it is time to retire the open office as detrimental to productivity.  They are great for the owner - fewer walls to build, more employees per square foot, but apparently not so good for productivity.
https://www.ziksanaconsulting.com/open-office-trend/
https://theundercoverrecruiter.com/fall-of-the-open-office/ 

[marcuscnelson]

Nice.  Feel like tennis courts and restaurant should flip spots.

"Tennis courts"?  Are you talking about the "pickle ball court"?  Why would you flip the locations? The pickle ball court appears to be almost under an I-95 on-ramp, in a back corner - as related to surface street access - of the site.  The restaurant has street frontage.

They mean the Petanque courts. Swapping that with the restaurant would put it at the intersection and closer to the rest of the development.

It looks like the way Ives is angled might prevent doing that by making the plot just a little too small to put the restaurant there.

[bl8jaxnative]

Is there any reason to not close Ives and Harper?  I get the west end is needed but with these folks owning that chunk along ives, there's 2 blocks of Harper that could be eleminated.  A key part of reducing costs is eliminating unneeded assets.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/30.32818/-81.67940

[Steve]

Update on this:

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/dennis-ives-project-in-the-rail-yard-district-taking-steps

[thelakelander]

I've always though the "social hall" concept was something the Jacksonville Farmer's Market should have done with the vacant grocery store next door (communal area with a few vendor slots and a larger space or two for an anchor tenant like a craft brewery, wholesale bakery, seafood/meat market or restaurant). I wish this development well. I think this brings the total of food hall type projects proposed in and around the urban core to five.

[thelakelander]

Dennis + Ives can start with demolition of a building

Demolition can begin toward creating a brewery, coffee shop, tacos and tequila, social hall and creative office space at Dennis + Ives in the Rail Yard District.

The city issued a permit Dec. 21 for Lockwood Quality Demolition to demolish a 42,502-square-foot building at 1505 Dennis St at a cost of $85,000.

It will keep the slabs for reconstruction on top of that footprint.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/dennis-ives-can-start-with-demolition-of-a-building

[MusicMan]

Hmmmm..Is that what was proposed from the beginning? The demo?

[thelakelander]

Yes. It's the cold storage warehouse on the west side of the property. These racks are the structure. So you're pretty limited in what you can do with this space outside of using it as cold storage. Even then, it would be obsolete for that use.

[Steve]

I didn't realize it was a rack supported building until looking at the pics. No choice here.

I've seen a couple of these working in supply chain. Has to be the worst real estate move ever-you can only use the building for what it was originally built for.

[acme54321]

I imagine that it was value engineered specifically as cold storage.  This is a similar construction method to the self storage place that is going up on Edgewood.  That thing has a billion interior columns that the modular dividing walls of the storage units will attach to.  That building was designed for a single use, storage.