Adaptive Reuse: An Artists' Vision For The Landing

[Kerry]

Sorry if I missed it.  Does the city have in place funding to remove the on / off "ramp" for water st. / Independt for the Main Street bridge?  I think it would be a good move overall.  But I wasn't aware that any funding was in place to do so.

It would have to coincide with a return to two-way streets or traffic will be a nightmare.

[thelakelander]

They may want to but there is no funding committed to it that I'm aware of. That's a FDOT facility so there would need to be some coordination between the agencies for removal to ultimately happen.

[Steve]

Sorry if I missed it.  Does the city have in place funding to remove the on / off "ramp" for water st. / Independt for the Main Street bridge?  I think it would be a good move overall.  But I wasn't aware that any funding was in place to do so.

It would have to coincide with a return to two-way streets or traffic will be a nightmare.

How would it be a nightmare? Not talking about the Ocean St ramp.

[vicupstate]

Minneapolis is a bad example. The historic mill is still there and the core of Downtown Minneapolis was never pulverized into oblivion to the level of what Jacksonville has experienced. New infill in the Mill District only came after decades of getting right in the core and that spilling over into fringe areas. For that "special" Mill district decade to occur in Jax will first require Jax to finally get it right in other areas to build the spill over synergy.

Comparing Jacksonville in any aspect to Minneapolis is like comparing someone that can't swim to Michael Phelps.

[Charles Hunter]

Sorry if I missed it.  Does the city have in place funding to remove the on / off "ramp" for water st. / Independt for the Main Street bridge?  I think it would be a good move overall.  But I wasn't aware that any funding was in place to do so.

Not that it is a really big deal, but traffic from the west that currently uses Water Street / Independent Drive would have either use Forsyth Street or continue east on Independent to Newnan to Bay to get to the Main Street Bridge.

It would have to coincide with a return to two-way streets or traffic will be a nightmare.

How would it be a nightmare? Not talking about the Ocean St ramp.

[Kerry]

Sorry if I missed it.  Does the city have in place funding to remove the on / off "ramp" for water st. / Independt for the Main Street bridge?  I think it would be a good move overall.  But I wasn't aware that any funding was in place to do so.

It would have to coincide with a return to two-way streets or traffic will be a nightmare.

How would it be a nightmare? Not talking about the Ocean St ramp.

Nightmare might be too strong a word so lets try "inconvenient".  The west side of downtown is already screwed up because of the courthouse.  This would require people to drive 4 extra blocks.  Keep the grid intact as much as possible and downtown streets should have already been returned to two-way.

[Steve]

Sorry if I missed it.  Does the city have in place funding to remove the on / off "ramp" for water st. / Independt for the Main Street bridge?  I think it would be a good move overall.  But I wasn't aware that any funding was in place to do so.

It would have to coincide with a return to two-way streets or traffic will be a nightmare.

How would it be a nightmare? Not talking about the Ocean St ramp.

Nightmare might be too strong a word so lets try "inconvenient".  The west side of downtown is already screwed up because of the courthouse.  This would require people to drive 4 extra blocks.  Keep the grid intact as much as possible and downtown streets should have already been returned to two-way.

I guess we can agree to disagree. Instead of getting on the bridge at the base of the landing, you'd go straight, curve next to the Ocean street off ramp, make the left on Bay (which you can do on Red), then make the left onto the bridge.

While I'd agree that the one ways suck, especially around the courthouse, I'm not seeing how that makes a difference here. You'd also be able to eliminate the traffic light that controls the "landing ramp" and Main St ramp.