Curry's Plan for the Landing Revealed

[Kiva]

West Palm beach can afford to give homeless people free bus tickets and cash to go elsewhere. It is a common "solution" to the homeless problem.

[vicupstate]

West Palm beach can afford to give homeless people free bus tickets and cash to go elsewhere. It is a common "solution" to the homeless problem.

I have heard that about a lot of cities, including ones far less affluent that Palm Beach.  Never seen any proof of it though.

[RattlerGator]

LOL.

Tell me everything, tell me everything right damn now.

Do any of you seriously think they don't have a semblance of a plan ? ? ?

Do any of you seriously doubt some of these places (Hooters, etc.) wouldn't kill to be in that Duval Live! complex at Lot J ? ? ?

So you're really bitching about all of this not being played out in public so nefarious nattering nabobs of negativity have a better opportunity to create confusion and opposition -- is that it?

Hmmmmmmmm . . . .

[thelakelander]

Do any of you seriously think they don't have a semblance of a plan ? ? ?

I actually do believe there's a plan. I also actually do believe that downtown will not be better after it's implementation if it has anything to do with anything taking place 1.5 miles away.

[Kerry]

Do any of you seriously think they don't have a semblance of a plan ? ? ?

I actually do believe there's a plan. I also actually do believe that downtown will not be better after it's implementation if it has anything to do with anything taking place 1.5 miles away.

Where is the Like button when you need it?

Of course there is a plan - direct as much public resources as possible to the Jags, not to make the City better, but to make Shad Khan richer so he keeps the Jags in Jax.  That is the whole plan.  The sad part is, Lot J and the Shipyards isn't going to work so we will gut downtown, spend hundreds of millions of dollars we don't have, and the Jags are going to leave anyhow.

[marcuscnelson]

Where is the Like button when you need it?

Of course there is a plan - direct as much public resources as possible to the Jags, not to make the City better, but to make Shad Khan richer so he keeps the Jags in Jax.  That is the whole plan.  The sad part is, Lot J and the Shipyards isn't going to work so we will gut downtown, spend hundreds of millions of dollars we don't have, and the Jags are going to leave anyhow.

But that won't be Lenny Curry's problem by then, won't it? So that's what makes it worth it!

[avonjax]

Can we at least wait, to see what happens before we start jumping to conclusions?  I know there has been a lot of notoriety related to the Landing, and downtown in general, but can we stop with all the pessimistic view points?  I'm just as frustrated with the downtown development as anybody in this forum.

The fact of the matter is that the Landing is just not working, and something needs to change.  The Landing has been a blight on the city since Mayor Austin.  Not saying that I'm in favor of a park, but unless somebody in this forum works for City Hall, we don't know what is going to happen.  Something needs to change.  I'm all in favor of knocking this depressing foundation to the ground.

And this does not come down to any particular party either.  Every single, Republican and Democratic mayor (including Delaney) has had their hands in the proverbial cookie jar, with regards to the mess of downtown. 

I can tell you what's going to happen. Jax business as usual. Empty lot or an eyesore poorly maintained park.

[DTWD_NW904]

Exactly @AvonJax

[bl8jaxnative]

Monroe seems to think saving The Landing is a suburban issue

https://www.jacksonville.com/news/20190308/nate-monroe-state-of-mayoral-race-is-um-strange

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He [ Jimmy Hill ]peddles a few suburban myths, like a belief there is not enough parking in downtown, and that The Jacksonville Landing should simply be replaced with something just like The Jacksonville Landing.
"

[thelakelander]

It's so funny how people can read the same thing and think something totally different. I took Monroe's comment to relate directly to Hill's "suburban myth" belief that retail needs dedicated parking. We actually ran an article on it years ago:

https://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2010-may-the-jacksonville-landing-parking-myths-vs-reality

Funny thing is Hill is actually right if we're talking about the type of retail you find in local malls and strip centers.

With that said, I never read or took Monroe's comment to say the Landing is a suburban issue. I didn't get that from Monroe's editorial or from any of the candidate's position at the televised debate.

[minder]

The landing is a shithole with no future. I could not care less if all that becomes of it at this point is a surface parking lot.

[Kerry]

The landing is a shithole with no future. I could not care less if all that becomes of it at this point is a surface parking lot.

Well good news, because that is the most likely outcome.

[thelakelander]

I walked through the Landing and around the few blocks of downtown surrounding it this afternoon. Despite all the vacancies and mismanagement, it was still the only spot with some resemblance of living souls strolling on the streets. There are a lot of small businesses in there that I was not aware of. What happens to these places and their employees after Sleiman gets his buyout? Will they be assisted with build-out costs associated with relocating to vacant storefronts in DT? Or are they simply out of luck?

Also, Hooters, Fion MacCools and Chicago Pizza all had people eating outdoors. Fion MacCools and Hooters appear to have put some money into recent renovations. Nothing else outside of the Landing property within a three block radius appeared to be open for business. If the Landing is going to be described as the shithole, that doesn't speak well for the rest of downtown which was boarded up and closed.

[Kerry]

Nothing else outside of the Landing property within a three block radius appeared to be open for business. If the Landing is going to be described as the shithole, that doesn't speak well for the rest of downtown which was boarded up and closed.

Yep - and declustering what The Landing did have isn't going to be better.  There is a reason malls developed food courts 25 years ago instead of the food outlets spread around the whole mall like they used to.

[tufsu1]

Do any of you seriously doubt some of these places (Hooters, etc.) wouldn't kill to be in that Duval Live! complex at Lot J ? ? ?

Any clue how Xfinity Live in Philly is doing on a daily basis? Unlike most of the Cordish projects, it is the one most comparable to what is proposed here, as it sits in a parking lot of the sports complex.

http://cordish.com/portfolio/Xfinity-live