The Jacksonville Jaguars

[Keith-N-Jax]

You should never want a lost vs a division rival. There are no Must take QBs in this draft.

[I-10east]

^^^Maybe you're right. I'm not gonna be rooting for them to lose when the game is on; I just want the best available player for the long run, even if it's not a QB. 

[pierre]

Herbert, the Oregon QB, announced he is going back to school. My guess is the Jags end up going the veteran QB route (Foles?) and don't end up blowing this roster up that much. They go heavy in the draft on offense. Loading up on linemen and receivers.

[MusicMan]

Looking forward to next season with a power running game and stout defense.

In other words we score less than the other team in 10 or 11 games.

Lots of rumors about letting Fournette go. Which when combined with our recent record of hapless first round picks will cement the near future of this franchise at or near the bottom of their division. For anyone keeping score the Cleveland Browns managed 7 victories this year....


Jaguars first-round selections under Dave Caldwell
2013: OT Luke Joeckel (free agent)
2014: QB Blake Bortles
2015: DE Dante Fowler (traded)
2016: CB Jalen Ramsey
2017: RB Leonard Fournette
2018: DL Taven Bryan

Caldwell will be back......

[KenFSU]

Apparently the Khans really are launching a new professional wrestling company to try to compete with Vince McMahon and the WWE.

They're launching it with a rally at TIAA Field a week from today.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Looking forward to next season with a power running game and stout defense.

I'm looking forward to season ticket renewals because I know I'm gonna have options to move up and in a bit.

[ProjectMaximus]

Apparently the Khans really are launching a new professional wrestling company to try to compete with Vince McMahon and the WWE.

They're launching it with a rally at TIAA Field a week from today.

It has been his American dream since he came to Illinois with 2 bucks in his pocket, to some day own his own...professional wrestling league.

[I-10east]

IMO Shad making an another pro wrestling organization is a mistake. The wrestling business is basically a shrinking pool of water, arguably since the demise of WCW. Look at the troubles the WWE are going through now. Don't take it from me, take it from veterans of the wrestling business like Jim Cornette.

[KenFSU]

What troubles? I'd argue that the WWE has never been healthier. They might not be as big of a part of the cultural zeitgeist as they were during the peak of Hulk Hogan or Steve Austin, but financially, they're taking in money hand over fist. They just signed $2.35 billion in new television deals with Fox and USA, the biggest TV deals in the history of the industry.

UFC is in a similar spot, where the product is exceptionally weak and the ratings are way down, but because there's such a demand from broadcasters for more DVR-proof live sports, the television money is just absolutely astronomical.

If Tony and/or Shad are doing this thing, I'd think of it more as a television product even more than a wrestling product. Apparently they've got multiple offers already from television stations.

I haven't really watched much wrestling since the 90s, but given how big of a deal historically Florida Championship Wrestling and Dusty Rhodes  were in Jacksonville before we had major league sports here, it's kind of cool that Dusty's son Cody is apparently heading up the effort with Tony Khan and that Jacksonville will be an important part of the operation.

[I-10east]

^^^I was fortunate to watch Dusty perform at the old Jacksonville Coliseum. Like you I no longer watch wrestling (around mid to late 2000s). I stopped watching from the combination of three four things; The PC era, opposed the the attitude era; the demise of WCW, which kept WWE in a symbiotic competition; the death of Eddie Guerrero who IMO was no doubt a great wrestler with tons of charisma; the rising of the UFC.

WWE Raw attendance is suffering badly at arenas all over the country. It's ratings are heading south. Most people complaints with modern WWE are the boring storylines, and the PC overly kid friendly era. Maybe you are right, and it's more about TV deals than butts in the seats.

I still think that more than not these supposed new upstarts within an over-saturated entity; Shad will have his work cut out for him, but I wish him the best. Contrastingly, I'm not confident about Vince's XFL 2.0 being anything special. 

[JaxAvondale]

What troubles? I'd argue that the WWE has never been healthier. They might not be as big of a part of the cultural zeitgeist as they were during the peak of Hulk Hogan or Steve Austin, but financially, they're taking in money hand over fist. They just signed $2.35 billion in new television deals with Fox and USA, the biggest TV deals in the history of the industry.

UFC is in a similar spot, where the product is exceptionally weak and the ratings are way down, but because there's such a demand from broadcasters for more DVR-proof live sports, the television money is just absolutely astronomical.

If Tony and/or Shad are doing this thing, I'd think of it more as a television product even more than a wrestling product. Apparently they've got multiple offers already from television stations.

I haven't really watched much wrestling since the 90s, but given how big of a deal historically Florida Championship Wrestling and Dusty Rhodes  were in Jacksonville before we had major league sports here, it's kind of cool that Dusty's son Cody is apparently heading up the effort with Tony Khan and that Jacksonville will be an important part of the operation.

Agreed! Wrestling has become a big deal. I have received numerous of calls and emails the last few years to get football clients to transition to wrestling. There are wrestling free agent camps that are usually held after the draft and training camp. 

[Adam White]

^^^I was fortunate to watch Dusty perform at the old Jacksonville Coliseum. Like you I no longer watch wrestling (around mid to late 2000s). I stopped watching from the combination of three four things; The PC era, opposed the the attitude era; the demise of WCW, which kept WWE in a symbiotic competition; the death of Eddie Guerrero who IMO was no doubt a great wrestler with tons of charisma; the rising of the UFC.

WWE Raw attendance is suffering badly at arenas all over the country. It's ratings are heading south. Most people complaints with modern WWE are the boring storylines, and the PC overly kid friendly era. Maybe you are right, and it's more about TV deals than butts in the seats.

I still think that more than not these supposed new upstarts within an over-saturated entity; Shad will have his work cut out for him, but I wish him the best. Contrastingly, I'm not confident about Vince's XFL 2.0 being anything special.

I saw Dusty Rhodes wrestle Ric Flair in the Great American Bash in the Gator Bowl. Rhodes looked like he was going to win and Flair cheated when the ref was distracted (and therefore retained his title).

I quit watching wrestling because I am no longer 14 years old.

[Snaketoz]

^^^I was fortunate to watch Dusty perform at the old Jacksonville Coliseum. Like you I no longer watch wrestling (around mid to late 2000s). I stopped watching from the combination of three four things; The PC era, opposed the the attitude era; the demise of WCW, which kept WWE in a symbiotic competition; the death of Eddie Guerrero who IMO was no doubt a great wrestler with tons of charisma; the rising of the UFC.

WWE Raw attendance is suffering badly at arenas all over the country. It's ratings are heading south. Most people complaints with modern WWE are the boring storylines, and the PC overly kid friendly era. Maybe you are right, and it's more about TV deals than butts in the seats.

I still think that more than not these supposed new upstarts within an over-saturated entity; Shad will have his work cut out for him, but I wish him the best. Contrastingly, I'm not confident about Vince's XFL 2.0 being anything special.

I quit watching wrestling because I am no longer 14 years old.

I think I stopped watching wrestling when I was 11 or 12.  Eddie Graham and the Great Malenko were the draws back then.

[KenFSU]

^^^I was fortunate to watch Dusty perform at the old Jacksonville Coliseum. Like you I no longer watch wrestling (around mid to late 2000s). I stopped watching from the combination of three four things; The PC era, opposed the the attitude era; the demise of WCW, which kept WWE in a symbiotic competition; the death of Eddie Guerrero who IMO was no doubt a great wrestler with tons of charisma; the rising of the UFC.

WWE Raw attendance is suffering badly at arenas all over the country. It's ratings are heading south. Most people complaints with modern WWE are the boring storylines, and the PC overly kid friendly era. Maybe you are right, and it's more about TV deals than butts in the seats.

I still think that more than not these supposed new upstarts within an over-saturated entity; Shad will have his work cut out for him, but I wish him the best. Contrastingly, I'm not confident about Vince's XFL 2.0 being anything special. 

Yeah, I stopped watching around 2002, I think.

Was never a big WWF fan as a kid, but absolutely LOVED the late 80's/early 90's WCW stuff when I was little. Ric Flair, Sting, Luger, Midnight Express, Road Warriors, Steiners, Arn Anderson. I pull it up on YouTube, and it still holds up.

Stopped watching for years, and then got hooked again in high school when Steve Austin took off and the WWF & WCW were going at it.

I've tried flipping it on a few times in recent years, but even more than the tamer product, the writing just seems so stupid and unrelatable now. Missing are these great, universal stories - things like employee vs. boss (Austin vs. McMahon), working man vs. one-percenter (Dusty vs. Flair), beloved hero turning his back on the fans (Hogan with the NWO), etc. - and it's just a bunch of wacky, overly clever skits.

Plus, everyone seems to have the same bland, monotone, scripted voice. You look at guys like Ric Flair, or Arn Anderson, or Dusty Rhodes, or Steve Austin, or the Rock, or Jim Cornette, and it's pretty obvious that you're seeing their real personality amplified times 10. With the new stuff, just seems like a bunch of vanilla personal trainers reading off the same script. Dusty Rhodes was patently ridiculous, with the perm, and the lisp, and the belly, but when he started talking about how Ric Flair had taken money out of his family's pocket and relating it back to working class struggles, you believed every word of it (still holds up as well: https://youtu.be/9py4aMK3aIU?t=39).

New XFL is going to be the same disaster the old one was.

Any time Vince McMahon has tried to do something outside of wrestling, it's been a monumental flop.

---

Also, sounds like Fournette has played his last snap as a Jag.

[Tacachale]

Also, sounds like Fournette has played his last snap as a Jag.

Which makes the fact that we drafted him instead of Patrick Mahomes a bitter damn pill.