The Jacksonville Jaguars

Started by Non-RedNeck Westsider, October 11, 2011, 04:20:42 PM

I-10east

It's a shame that with that past political tension, Jax (the hardest hit team IMO; Biggest military town in NFL, small market pop) hasn't even averaged 60,000 (just short), even with the help of the London game. Without the political BS (which I mainly blame the inept commish Roger Goodell among others) Jax would've averaged at least 64K (with a team that's looking like they are going to the playoffs the first time since '07). Thank God for the income with Daily's Place this year.

I'm sure that many of you think that Goodell did a great thing with the anthem folly, and by constantly running down the NFL, I'm just sure of it.... Politics = oil, sports = water. Nothing is benefited from it, just losses losses losses. I'm glad that these morons in the sports liberal establishment have finally taken somewhat of a chill pill from the volatile divisive rhetoric that they spew on a regular basis. Isn't it great getting back to sports? 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/attendance

Adam White

Quote from: I-10east on November 18, 2017, 06:58:09 AM
It's a shame that with that past political tension, Jax (the hardest hit team IMO; Biggest military town in NFL, small market pop) hasn't even averaged 60,000 (just short), even with the help of the London game. Without the political BS (which I mainly blame the inept commish Roger Goodell among others) Jax would've averaged at least 64K (with a team that's looking like they are going to the playoffs the first time since '07). Thank God for the income with Daily's Place this year.

I'm sure that many of you think that Goodell did a great thing with the anthem folly, and by constantly running down the NFL, I'm just sure of it.... Politics = oil, sports = water. Nothing is benefited from it, just losses losses losses. I'm glad that these morons in the sports liberal establishment have finally taken somewhat of a chill pill from the volatile divisive rhetoric that they spew on a regular basis. Isn't it great getting back to sports? 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/attendance

If politics and sports don't mix, why don't people complain about military flyovers, the national anthem, the flag, etc at basically all major sporting events?

Clearly, it's more an issue of certain politics don't mix with sports.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

Snaketoz

Quote from: sanmarcomatt on November 20, 2017, 08:25:42 AM
Everbank Field
Sacksonville, FL


Dear Santa,

We know you are very busy this time of year so we are sending a group letter.

All we want for Christmas is a Quarterback so we have a chance to get beyond the Divisional round.

Thank you,

Tashaun,Barry, AJ, Jalen,Aaron,Myles,Paul,Telvin,Malik,Calais,Abry,Yannik,Marcell, and Dante.
It's impossible to upgrade now, but the Jaguars won't get far with the current QB, or the backup for that matter.  I think it's unbelievable how well the team is doing in spite of Blake.
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot."

Wacca Pilatka

Good to know the Jags can win when playing 11 on 18 against an opponent plus the officiating crew, as has been the case the last two weeks.
The tourist would realize at once that he had struck the Land of Flowers - the City Beautiful!

Henry J. Klutho

avonjax

Quote from: Snaketoz on November 20, 2017, 08:55:22 AM
Quote from: sanmarcomatt on November 20, 2017, 08:25:42 AM
Everbank Field
Sacksonville, FL


Dear Santa,

We know you are very busy this time of year so we are sending a group letter.

All we want for Christmas is a Quarterback so we have a chance to get beyond the Divisional round.

Thank you,

Tashaun,Barry, AJ, Jalen,Aaron,Myles,Paul,Telvin,Malik,Calais,Abry,Yannik,Marcell, and Dante.
It's impossible to upgrade now, but the Jaguars won't get far with the current QB, or the backup for that matter.  I think it's unbelievable how well the team is doing in spite of Blake.

It's getting very tiresome how much people in Jax, even with a winning record, continue to bash BB. Is he a great QB? No. Is he a bad QB? No. He's probably middle of the pack. But my real issue is how we forget 4 of our offensive players are out. AR for the season and yesterday two starters on the line and our #2 WR. It's just fashionable to trash Blake but look at what some of the younger highly touted QB's did yesterday and this season. I'll stick with BB for now. Just be happy where we are and hope we can get our banged up players back. Blake has played much better this year.

avonjax

Quote from: I-10east on November 18, 2017, 06:58:09 AM
It's a shame that with that past political tension, Jax (the hardest hit team IMO; Biggest military town in NFL, small market pop) hasn't even averaged 60,000 (just short), even with the help of the London game. Without the political BS (which I mainly blame the inept commish Roger Goodell among others) Jax would've averaged at least 64K (with a team that's looking like they are going to the playoffs the first time since '07). Thank God for the income with Daily's Place this year.

I'm sure that many of you think that Goodell did a great thing with the anthem folly, and by constantly running down the NFL, I'm just sure of it.... Politics = oil, sports = water. Nothing is benefited from it, just losses losses losses. I'm glad that these morons in the sports liberal establishment have finally taken somewhat of a chill pill from the volatile divisive rhetoric that they spew on a regular basis. Isn't it great getting back to sports? 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/attendance


Maybe you should include the right wing moron in the WH who has elevated this problem to where it is.
It's always some kind of liberal media you guys blame. Now the liberal sports media? Wow! Just stupid bias on your side.

Wacca Pilatka

Quote from: avonjax on November 20, 2017, 09:47:11 AM

It's getting very tiresome how much people in Jax, even with a winning record, continue to bash BB. Is he a great QB? No. Is he a bad QB? No. He's probably middle of the pack. But my real issue is how we forget 4 of our offensive players are out. AR for the season and yesterday two starters on the line and our #2 WR. It's just fashionable to trash Blake but look at what some of the younger highly touted QB's did yesterday and this season. I'll stick with BB for now. Just be happy where we are and hope we can get our banged up players back. Blake has played much better this year.

Thank you.

Seven picks in the last 12 games, with one of those having stretched the definition of interception to bizarre extremes since the ball was in James O'Shaughnessy's hands for two weeks before Shazier ripped it away.  Really, the only truly bad decisions he's made all year were the chucks in the 4th quarter against the Chargers.

Also, some of those celebrated young QBs who we were all complaining were better than Blake last year don't look so good right now.  Mariota has 10 picks this year but is still feted as a superstar on Thursday Night Football.  Derek Carr has regressed and is making strange decisions.  Jameis Winston eats his own hand in attempts to motivate his team, to say nothing of his off-field problems.
The tourist would realize at once that he had struck the Land of Flowers - the City Beautiful!

Henry J. Klutho

Steve

Quote from: sanmarcomatt on November 20, 2017, 08:25:42 AM
Everbank Field
Sacksonville, FL


Dear Santa,

We know you are very busy this time of year so we are sending a group letter.

All we want for Christmas is a Quarterback so we have a chance to get beyond the Divisional round.

Thank you,

Tashaun,Barry, AJ, Jalen,Aaron,Myles,Paul,Telvin,Malik,Calais,Abry,Yannik,Marcell, and Dante.

I will say, aside from the fumble, this wouldn't be the poster child game to bash the QB. The offensive line was terrible yesterday, and he was throwing to an injured Marqise Lee, Keelan Cole, and Dede "200 Yard" Westbrook. I'm not all-in on Blake, but this isn't the game to decide why.

Wacca Pilatka

^ In fairness to Westbrook, he'd have had 16 more yards if he lived in a world where having both feet in bounds while controlling the ball is considered a catch.
The tourist would realize at once that he had struck the Land of Flowers - the City Beautiful!

Henry J. Klutho

remc86007

The weather was crappy yesterday, but in many of the drives we had to punt on, Bortles seemed to make worse decisions than what an average back up would have. He seems unable to (or perhaps told not to by the staff) audible out of run plays when they clearly are destined to fail. He throws to the check down when people are open downfield. He throws downfield into double coverage. He fails to use his (relatively good) running ability when he should. Instead of taking a couple yard loss on a sack he tries to heave the ball errantly forward, risking a fumble or pick. He's not awful, just disappointing in that he seems to be the weakest link on the team. Hopefully with his line back in place he'll be better again.

Jim

I think that sums it up.

Bad? No.

Weakest link? Yes.

Wacca Pilatka

#8756
^ Right.  I'm under no illusions that Blake is better than adequate, just mystified that he has somehow become this paragon symbol of terrible quarterbacking among a lot of commentators (while other young QBs are getting their flaws swept under the rug).  I mean national sports commentators, that is, not Metro Jacksonville ones.

Read any feature on Football Outsiders and there's a Blake punchline in there somewhere.  I'm pretty sure he must have murdered the pets of every one of their writers, because it's the only explanation I have for the volume and continuity of vitriol.

Among the AFC, I'd take him over the various Miami QBs, the various Denver QBs, Dalton, Brissett, Savage, Kizer, or McCown.  I'd probably put him on a par with Taylor, Flacco, and the criminally overrated Mariota.  Carr and Rivers haven't been that much better.  Yet any of the national sports sites are acting like it's a joke that he'd be permitted in the postseason at all.  The postseason treated us to a Matt McGloin/Brock Osweiler duel last year.
The tourist would realize at once that he had struck the Land of Flowers - the City Beautiful!

Henry J. Klutho

jaxjags

I think as yesterday was a close game he was just trying to "not lose the game". Thus tentative and indecisive at times.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Playcalling yesterday was definitely conservative. 

As far as the Bortles hate... whatever.

Last year's INT filled '16, everyone was BEGGING for BB5 to just throw it away rather than force it.  Now this year, when he tosses it into the ground or throws a ball just out of reach of his WR and definitely out of reach of the DB, everyone wonders why he's not making more passes...   We'll just continue to watch 2 different games.  I'm ok with that.

FTR - he threw away 3 balls yesterday by my count, had 3 batted passes (1 because of a poorly run route, the other because the OL disengaged) and had 2 drops.  You add those and the Westbrook catch and he's over 200 yds with an 80% completion % and 2 TDs.  But you know... Because Blake....

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Wacca Pilatka

That one throw into the knee of a defender early on was pretty rough.  But the deep balls to Westbrook (caught) and Lee (defended) were certainly nice throws, particularly considering conditions.
The tourist would realize at once that he had struck the Land of Flowers - the City Beautiful!

Henry J. Klutho