Florida Coastal Law School long-term plans

[FlaBoy]

http://jacksonville.com/news/education/2017-06-30/florida-coastal-cuts-enrollment-classes-boost-bar-exam-results

As the changes are made, school leadership hopes to move downtown to a smaller facility and ultimately become a not-for-profit institution. The school has yet to announce when it will make those moves.

Any ideas for a site? Ambassador Hotel area next to all the courthouses would be best but maybe another could be the JEA Customer Center?

[remc86007]

I wouldn't spend much improving a building based on a long-term lease with them considering how Infilaw's other schools are going. I don't think FL Coastal is long for the world. They may lose their Title IV eligibility this year and if they do, they are done.

[remc86007]

Bar exam results released today (I passed). FL Coastal students didn't fare so well: 47.7 percent passed, the lowest in the state. I feel really bad for the people that got conned into going to that school and now have debt and little chance of becoming a lawyer.

[BridgeTroll]

Bar exam results released today (I passed). FL Coastal students didn't fare so well: 47.7 percent passed, the lowest in the state. I feel really bad for the people that got conned into going to that school and now have debt and little chance of becoming a lawyer.

Congratulations!  Great job!

[Jimmy]

Bar exam results released today (I passed). FL Coastal students didn't fare so well: 47.7 percent passed, the lowest in the state. I feel really bad for the people that got conned into going to that school and now have debt and little chance of becoming a lawyer.

Focus on the good.  Congrats!  And welcome to the club.

[ProjectMaximus]

remc good job and congrats!!

[remc86007]

Thanks everybody!

[ben says]

I just dont believe anyone got CONNED into going to this school. Yeah, their marketing practices are a bit shitty...but the burden is on the student to do their homework, especially before signing up in thousands of student loans.

I went to Coastal. I truly believe the quality of teaching is the same as you´d get at ANY other school (I sat in on classes with my sister at Georgetown and UF Law, and the text books are the same, as are the teaching methods).

The issue with Coastal has been, and always will be, signing up hundreds of students who they know cant pass their way out of a paper bag.

The only solution to fixing the bar passage rates is to limit the amount AND quality of students they bring in.

Wish people would stop saying the quality of education is somehow sub par. The education is fine - it´s the admission standards that aren´t.

[FlaBoy]

It would be bad for Jacksonville, but good for the legal market if they went away since they used to dump 600-700 grads a year into the market.

I am still holding out that they continue to make 300 work and move downtown...

[RiversideRambler]

I just dont believe anyone got CONNED into going to this school. Yeah, their marketing practices are a bit shitty...but the burden is on the student to do their homework, especially before signing up in thousands of student loans.

I went to Coastal. I truly believe the quality of teaching is the same as you´d get at ANY other school (I sat in on classes with my sister at Georgetown and UF Law, and the text books are the same, as are the teaching methods).

The issue with Coastal has been, and always will be, signing up hundreds of students who they know cant pass their way out of a paper bag.

The only solution to fixing the bar passage rates is to limit the amount AND quality of students they bring in.

Wish people would stop saying the quality of education is somehow sub par. The education is fine - it´s the admission standards that aren´t.

As a fellow Coastal alum, I agree with all of this.

[remc86007]

I just dont believe anyone got CONNED into going to this school. Yeah, their marketing practices are a bit shitty...but the burden is on the student to do their homework, especially before signing up in thousands of student loans.

Perhaps the education is equivalent to higher ranked law schools, but I still think some students got "conned" into going there. I used the word "conned" to mean: persuaded by use of deception. As you mentioned, their marketing practices are (or at least were) "shitty." I remember getting countless letters from them when I was applying to law schools. I would describe many of them as deceptive at best. Sure the onus is on the applicant to some extent, but in what other situation in life is a person loaned $100k+ with such bad odds of being able to repay it?

I'm not so sure that limiting the entering class sizes further will improve their Bar passage. As recently as 2013 their bar passage rate was 20 points higher and that was with nearly three times as many students taking it. Something clearly is wrong and it is getting worse quickly.

[FlaBoy]

I just dont believe anyone got CONNED into going to this school. Yeah, their marketing practices are a bit shitty...but the burden is on the student to do their homework, especially before signing up in thousands of student loans.

I went to Coastal. I truly believe the quality of teaching is the same as you´d get at ANY other school (I sat in on classes with my sister at Georgetown and UF Law, and the text books are the same, as are the teaching methods).

The issue with Coastal has been, and always will be, signing up hundreds of students who they know cant pass their way out of a paper bag.

The only solution to fixing the bar passage rates is to limit the amount AND quality of students they bring in.

Wish people would stop saying the quality of education is somehow sub par. The education is fine - it´s the admission standards that aren´t.

As a fellow Coastal alum, I agree with all of this.

Going to say 150 students per cohort won't work for their for-profit business model. Again, if the school closed it would be good for the legal market but really bad for Jax IF it intends on going downtown.

[Tacachale]

I just dont believe anyone got CONNED into going to this school. Yeah, their marketing practices are a bit shitty...but the burden is on the student to do their homework, especially before signing up in thousands of student loans.

I went to Coastal. I truly believe the quality of teaching is the same as you´d get at ANY other school (I sat in on classes with my sister at Georgetown and UF Law, and the text books are the same, as are the teaching methods).

The issue with Coastal has been, and always will be, signing up hundreds of students who they know cant pass their way out of a paper bag.

The only solution to fixing the bar passage rates is to limit the amount AND quality of students they bring in.

Wish people would stop saying the quality of education is somehow sub par. The education is fine - it´s the admission standards that aren´t.

As a fellow Coastal alum, I agree with all of this.

Going to say 150 students per cohort won't work for their for-profit business model. Again, if the school closed it would be good for the legal market but really bad for Jax IF it intends on going downtown.

Hard to see how it stays afloat at this point. Their for-profit model seemed to work for awhile, but eventually they started recruiting people that just weren't cut out to be lawyers, and now it's come back to bite them. No offense whatsoever to people who went there.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Sure the onus is on the applicant to some extent, but in what other situation in life is a person loaned $100k+ with such bad odds of being able to repay it?

Hard to believe, but in less than 10 years from a massive fallout, the mortgage business is quickly heading that way again. 

[FlaBoy]

I just dont believe anyone got CONNED into going to this school. Yeah, their marketing practices are a bit shitty...but the burden is on the student to do their homework, especially before signing up in thousands of student loans.

I went to Coastal. I truly believe the quality of teaching is the same as you´d get at ANY other school (I sat in on classes with my sister at Georgetown and UF Law, and the text books are the same, as are the teaching methods).

The issue with Coastal has been, and always will be, signing up hundreds of students who they know cant pass their way out of a paper bag.

The only solution to fixing the bar passage rates is to limit the amount AND quality of students they bring in.

Wish people would stop saying the quality of education is somehow sub par. The education is fine - it´s the admission standards that aren´t.

As a fellow Coastal alum, I agree with all of this.

Going to say 150 students per cohort won't work for their for-profit business model. Again, if the school closed it would be good for the legal market but really bad for Jax IF it intends on going downtown.

Hard to see how it stays afloat at this point. Their for-profit model seemed to work for awhile, but eventually they started recruiting people that just weren't cut out to be lawyers, and now it's come back to bite them. No offense whatsoever to people who went there.

UNF have any interest in a law school?