San Marco Publix Site Plan and Renderings

MusicMan · April 12, 2017, 10:10:51 AM

Agree with Fla Boy. Take it up a little higher and add a short term furnished rental component, i.e Air B-n-B or hotel. It would be slammed in that location.

Captain Zissou · April 17, 2017, 03:37:41 PM

Gainesville has pulled off a number of project that are bigger than this. The Standard is a couple times the size of East San Marco.

QuoteOther first-floor tenants coming to The Standard that were previously reported in the Sun include Chick-Fil-A, Bento Cafe and Costa Vida Fresh Mexican Grill.

Target has made a priority of opening more "flexible-format" stores near college campuses, with merchandise for dorms and apartments, grab-and-go food, health and beauty products, apparel from local sports teams and order pickup service, according to a news release.

http://www.gainesville.com/news/20160712/cvs-squeezing-into-target-express-at-standard

thelakelander · April 17, 2017, 04:19:34 PM

Gainesville is a college town. Like Tallahassee, Madison, WI and Columbus, OH, totally different market. Nevertheless, East San Marco is it's own little unique animal. It has less to do with Jax as a whole and more to do with the amount of money initially invested in that site during the height of the 2000s real estate boom.

FSBA · April 17, 2017, 07:08:32 PM

Quote from: thelakelander on April 17, 2017, 04:19:34 PM
Gainesville is a college town. Like Tallahassee, Madison, WI and Columbus, OH, totally different market. Nevertheless, East San Marco is it's own little unique animal. It has less to do with Jax as a whole and more to do with the amount of money initially invested in that site during the height of the 2000s real estate boom.

Hope the folks enjoy sitting on things for another decade. If something doesn't happen in the next 18-24 months to get ground broken they'll be in for the Great Recession 2.

FlaBoy · April 18, 2017, 12:50:46 PM

It seems like the big problem is the initial cost of the land from back in 2003 that probably still has not made it back. This initial cost with rising construction costs now leave them a loser. It is a great location that would 110% work and be filled to the brim with people wanting to live there, but they are basically saying that until costs come down, they will lose money, am I right?

Could the City step in and do anything because this is valuable property that should be making the city a lot more money with taxes...

Tacachale · April 18, 2017, 12:53:47 PM

^I agree the city should be more proactive with incentives to make stuff like this work. On the other hand, it seems like it would be a pretty big subsidy to make it work in San Marco, and it's already a pretty well off area. The same money would probably have a much bigger impact spent Downtown or a distressed neighborhood.

FlaBoy · April 18, 2017, 01:14:10 PM

Is there any potential solution to getting this done with the current financial state of the land? The developers clearly aren't looking to sell at a loss at this point.

Tacachale · April 27, 2018, 08:13:56 AM

Regency says the project is back on as only Publix/retail, no apartments.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/regency-plans-to-start-san-marco-shopping-center-publix-within-a-year

Disappointing but likelier to get done.

Adam White · April 27, 2018, 08:19:24 AM

Quote from: Tacachale on April 27, 2018, 08:13:56 AM
Regency says the project is back on as only Publix/retail, no apartments.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/regency-plans-to-start-san-marco-shopping-center-publix-within-a-year

Disappointing but likelier to get done.

Any chance they're going to add a Fudrucker's?

thelakelander · April 27, 2018, 08:56:25 AM

Great news for the community. It was clear the project wasn't going to work with residential on top and that big parking deck. Better to have the retail and no residential, as opposed to another decade of looking at an empty field.

MusicMan · April 27, 2018, 09:07:42 AM

Agree. Hope they can plan ingress and egress to work with the existing traffic flows. There are times when it is pretty crowded at that intersection.

acme54321 · April 27, 2018, 10:29:14 AM

Are there any renderings floating around for this iteration yet? Very interested to see how they lay the site out. Can't wait to see the huge surface lot fronting Atlantic and Hendricks!

Steve · April 27, 2018, 10:51:30 AM

Quote from: acme54321 on April 27, 2018, 10:29:14 AM
Are there any renderings floating around for this iteration yet? Very interested to see how they lay the site out. Can't wait to see the huge surface lot fronting Atlantic and Hendricks!

What makes you think that? I'm expecting something similar now to the Riverside Publix.

thelakelander · April 27, 2018, 11:37:04 AM

I don't see any reason why it won't be some variation of what the first level was supposed to be anyway. Just take the old plan and chop off the upper levels. The largest question about parking I'd have is if it will still end up with a smaller 2 level parking deck. The site is still a small one for 50k square feet of retail space.

ProjectMaximus · April 27, 2018, 12:46:48 PM

Well this is a huge bummer. I always thought the residential infusion would make the square that much more vibrant. Oh well, I guess a higher likelihood that we see the Baptist site and Home St come through with their residential developments then.

Quote from: sanmarcomatt on April 27, 2018, 08:48:21 AM
Quote from: Tacachale on April 27, 2018, 08:13:56 AM
Regency says the project is back on as only Publix/retail, no apartments.

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/regency-plans-to-start-san-marco-shopping-center-publix-within-a-year

Disappointing but likelier to get done.

Pathetic final result (considering time and investment) but good news for the other proposed residential in the vicinity.

Never fear SMM, they might just manage to lure a couple more donut shops.