5 Reasons Why Regency Square Mall's Days Are Numbered

Started by Metro Jacksonville, December 02, 2014, 03:00:03 AM

I-10east

#75
These enclosed malls are really gonna have to reinvent themselves, with many of these traditional anchor department stores closing like JCP, Sears etc. I still think that it's possible for these mall types to thrive, just gotta be creative/safe/good municipal economy.

exnewsman

I don't understand why the SJTC didn't install some sort of tram system to transport people from one end of its vastness tot he other. Instead we are left to deal with the congestion and parking that everyone hates. How easy it would have been to run something around the major sections so that you could just park and stay.. just taking the tram/trolley to go from one sector to the other and then back to your car.

Now everything is so spread out you park/shop/leave.. park/shop/leave.. park/shop/leave.

thelakelander

#77
Quote from: I-10east on March 13, 2017, 02:37:57 PM
These enclosed malls are really gonna have to reinvent themselves, with many of these traditional anchor department stores closing like JCP, Sears etc. I still think that it's possible for these mall types to thrive, just gotta be creative/safe/good municipal economy.

Here's a new one in Miami...









Instead of traditional, it's mixed use with one traditional mall anchor (Saks Fifth Avenue), a food hall and a lot of restaurants.

Full article: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/real-estate-news/article111847637.html

Mall map and directory: http://www.brickellcitycentre.com/whats-here/directory
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Adam White

Quote from: thelakelander on March 13, 2017, 05:18:35 PM
Quote from: I-10east on March 13, 2017, 02:37:57 PM
These enclosed malls are really gonna have to reinvent themselves, with many of these traditional anchor department stores closing like JCP, Sears etc. I still think that it's possible for these mall types to thrive, just gotta be creative/safe/good municipal economy.

Here's a new one in Miami...









Instead of traditional, it's mixed use with one traditional mall anchor (Saks Fifth Avenue), a food hall and a lot of restaurants.

Full article: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/real-estate-news/article111847637.html

Mall map and directory: http://www.brickellcitycentre.com/whats-here/directory

Doesn't look too unlike Westfield Stratford City in London.
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FlaBoy

One day when online retail has taken over, outdoor shopping malls like the Town Center will be so much easier to redevelop for mixed use.


ProjectMaximus

Yesterday I found out about a very outlandish plan for the Regency mall. I'd give it less than 1% chance but if they can pull it off will be very interesting.

coredumped

Jags season ticket holder.

I-10east

Nice pics Adam. That complex in MIA seems like an ideal urban mixed use plan. 

ProjectMaximus

Quote from: coredumped on March 13, 2017, 10:06:55 PM
Care to share the details?

It's something that may not have mass appeal, but would definitely appeal to me.

Sorry other than that, I don't think I should say anymore. They're trying to negotiate it right now...I'd hate to potentially affect those discussions in any way.

Hmm, to add more intrigue I'll say it's something that I've seen discussed at least twice before, but always highly unlikely to happen imo.

Adam White

Quote from: I-10east on March 13, 2017, 10:20:50 PM
Nice pics Adam. That complex in MIA seems like an ideal urban mixed use plan.

Those are Lake's pictures :)

I've got no issue with indoor malls - I think they can be great when they are in the right place and have the right mix of retailers. I can see one doing well if its integrated into the fabric of the area - not like a big box surrounded by massive parking lots. Although there are definitely some aspects of the St Johns Town Center that I like (which says a lot, as I was completely skeptical when it was announced), I do sometimes think it's better in theory than in execution.
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FlaBoy

It is really a unique property due to the size of it (1.4 million sq ft of retail space alone) and location near a city center. I wonder if something like a data center could ever go there from an Amazon, Google, Microsoft, etc., where they have space to store servers and some offices. Also lots of space to expand.

Jim

Quote from: FlaBoy on March 14, 2017, 04:31:09 PM
It is really a unique property due to the size of it (1.4 million sq ft of retail space alone) and location near a city center. I wonder if something like a data center could ever go there from an Amazon, Google, Microsoft, etc., where they have space to store servers and some offices. Also lots of space to expand.
As someone who manages a data center, I wouldn't use that facility for one.  I like that you're thinking big but it's not well suited to a single tenant data center. The building's shape is way too irregular and it's an inefficient use of space per employee (data centers are not a body dense enterprise).  And if a new building is in order, they may as well build that somewhere in the periphery of town.

A mixed use TOD with retail, housing, office and public would be a better reuse of the location.  The building as it is needs to come down. 

Steve

I think something more resembling Roosevelt Mall -> Roosevelt Square would make more sense. Perhaps not as much retail, but I mean more of a wholesale redevelopment of the property.

vicupstate

JC Penney list of closings:

Jacksonville Regional Shopping Center   Jacksonville   FL

Where is that?
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thelakelander

Northside at Lem Turner and Dunn. That's the old Gateway Mall JCPenney.  They abandoned that mall, putting the final nail in its coffin for the strip mall location they're closing now.
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