William Stephen (Dare?) Griffin

Started by jlmann, March 14, 2017, 04:42:36 PM

icarus

But seriously, I feel like I lost my best sparring partner.  Who else can convincingly argue against the facts .... but I digress and look forward to non-political commentary on developments in Jacksonville ... either way

ProjectMaximus

Ok, since I commented once already I'll comment one more time. I've heard part of the story from the other side now and I empathize with both "groups." I understand the difficulty all are dealing with in this messy situation. I have respect and affinity to folks on both sides and I will shut the hell up now until this issue gets resolved in court/arbitration/whatever.

Also I will add, it is an enormous shame if Stephen's content is gone forever. Legalities and copyrights aside, the internet is less rich without many of his stories and contributions. I do hope he at least has the ability to recover his content and republish in some format.

remc86007

Quote from: ProjectMaximus on March 14, 2017, 11:23:33 PM
Also I will add, it is an enormous shame if Stephen's content is gone forever. Legalities and copyrights aside, the internet is less rich without many of his stories and contributions. I do hope he at least has the ability to recover his content and republish in some format.

I completely agree with this. I'd think it would be in both "parties'" best interest to get his content back up on the site as soon as possible and figure out how to work out the profit sharing later.

bill

Quote from: remc86007 on March 14, 2017, 04:52:05 PM
I'd like an update too.

Deleting threads is not a good solution.

LMFAO Dare was the king of deleting. If you did not mimic his goosestepping style then he would often delete posts. Many had to apologize for his actions. A blind ideologue does not make for an open forum. None of the other "hosts" have ever come close to the censoring that Dare was known for.

bill

Quote from: edjax on March 14, 2017, 07:20:19 PM
Well I have to say the site has been much more pleasant since his departure.  Hopefully he and that Fineho can just go ahead and start their own site and go on and on about all the fine social and political crap they desire.  I actually have enjoyed coming to Metro Jacksonville recently and seeing much more of what is actually going on in Jacksonville instead of the social and political agendas that were being pushed. Seems like more recently what it's origins were all about.
Bingo

remc86007

Quote from: bill on March 15, 2017, 12:03:01 AM
LMFAO Dare was the king of deleting. If you did not mimic his goosestepping style then he would often delete posts. Many had to apologize for his actions. A blind ideologue does not make for an open forum. None of the other "hosts" have ever come close to the censoring that Dare was known for.
I'm relatively new around here and I wasn't aware that he did that. Regardless, I don't think deleting threads is ever a good solution unless they violate a forum rule.

bill

Quote from: remc86007 on March 15, 2017, 12:12:44 AM
Quote from: bill on March 15, 2017, 12:03:01 AM
LMFAO Dare was the king of deleting. If you did not mimic his goosestepping style then he would often delete posts. Many had to apologize for his actions. A blind ideologue does not make for an open forum. None of the other "hosts" have ever come close to the censoring that Dare was known for.
I'm relatively new around here and I wasn't aware that he did that. Regardless, I don't think deleting threads is ever a good solution unless they violate a forum rule.
Agreed. Even an ideologue with circular logic deserves the right to have his "opinion". He did often violate forum rules but as arbiter he flaunted them.

KenFSU

Best to all involved, all I'll say is this:

Anyone who hasn't bookmarked Modern Cities really is missing out.

Take out the forums, and MetroJax really is just a time-delayed version of what has long been the superior site. 

It's how you remember MetroJacksonville being when you first discovered it :)

I completely understand the decision to spin-off, particularly with the editorial direction that things have been going at MetroJax in the last couple of years, along with an escalating level of toxicity that frankly, I wouldn't want to be associated with either. It's just a shame that it's resulted in a bit of a disconnect between Modern Cities content and the long-time, civil MetroJax community. Some great, timely discussion could take place at Modern Cities, but then you've got 10+ years of archived forum content here. Almost wish there was a way to transport the traditional sections of the forum to the new site, and keep all the lifestyle/politics/commentary stuff over here.






I-10east

I don't even have a problem with political topics from either political side. My problem is when one side is free to express their opinions, and the other is silenced (like when you know who was active). I get why many aren't wild about the political stuff, given the controversy that it often cause. Many times the topic wasn't even political (like a Jaguar bashing opinion piece for instance) but just because he disagreed with what I said, I was silenced.

coredumped

Censorship doesn't belong on the internet. Unless the post is illegal or off topic I wouldn't​see a reason to delete it.
Jags season ticket holder.

thelakelander

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RattlerGator

Quote from: KenFSU on March 14, 2017, 05:40:23 PM
No horse in the race, not privy to any inside info, and not interested in private details of someone else's business, but come on now, if there's one person who has earned MORE than the benefit of the doubt over the last decade, it's Ennis. Certainly doesn't need my defending, but guy has never been anything less than a class act. And the foundation of the site, as far as I'm concerned.

Concur 100%

JPalmer

This is so much more dramatic than the Moon River Pizza post ever was, and that was a pretty damn dramatic.

RattlerGator

Quote from: bill on March 15, 2017, 12:03:01 AM
LMFAO Dare was the king of deleting. If you did not mimic his goosestepping style then he would often delete posts. Many had to apologize for his actions. A blind ideologue does not make for an open forum. None of the other "hosts" have ever come close to the censoring that Dare was known for.

Concur 100%

KenFSU

Quote from: thelakelander on March 15, 2017, 08:46:44 AM
With that said, as one of the site administrators here who tries not to delete anything outside of spam posts, this is a good time to remind everyone of the forum registration rules they agreed to when they signed up.

QuoteYou agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening...

Love me some good early morning irony.