City will seek Proposals for Shipyards + Met Park Combined Development

Started by KenFSU, December 13, 2016, 10:43:41 PM

FlaBoy

Quote from: KenFSU on March 08, 2017, 02:50:53 PM
^What Lamping said was this, pardon my paraphrase:

We still have a great facility. But even though we've had five stadium enhancement projects in the last few years, we really need to double that number to get where we need to be.

Basically, we will be asking for some sort of fan covering to enhance the gameday experience soon like most new stadiums and reduced overall seating/more premium seats.

Think Miami's new renovation:



Meets the Seahawks' stadium due to their similar stadium shape:


KenFSU

Quote from: KenFSU on March 08, 2017, 02:35:47 PM
Three firms put in bids.

Not sure if the ark is one of them.

One small holding company in Texas, and another mid-sized developer in Austin.

Jags will win the bid hands down.

RattlerGator

Which, in a sane world, proves how much the Jaguars *are* doing for our downtown. No one is beating down the door to even compete for development of The Shipyards, etc.

#InShadWeTrustNotVicUpstate

Kerry

Quote from: RattlerGator on March 08, 2017, 03:21:33 PM
Which, in a sane world, proves how much the Jaguars *are* doing for our downtown. No one is beating down the door to even compete for development of The Shipyards, etc.

#InShadWeTrustNotVicUpstate

^THIS!!!

They own a football team and can't even manage it well.  They should leave urban development to urban developers, or sell the football team and become full-time developer.
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tufsu1

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on March 08, 2017, 12:45:05 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on March 08, 2017, 12:43:29 PM
I'd be surprised it COJ secures enough money from FDOT in time to demolish the Hart ramps and finish replacing it with a ground level boulevard by 2019. It's already March 2017.  You'd be struggling to meet that deadline, even if funds were already set aside and construction was imminent.

Go back to the renderings....  One section was bike/ped the other was vehicles, but both were on the elevated portion.  The only difference is that it shrinks from 4 lanes to 2.

incorrect. The part near the stadium is proposed to be torn down.  FDOT has offered to do a $250k study to determine feasibility.  If feasible, its still likely 3-5 years away at best.

tufsu1

As for stadium modifications, note that the Miami renovations were funded ENTIRELY by the Dolphins owner!

thelakelander

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pierre

Quote from: tufsu1 on March 08, 2017, 03:41:09 PM
As for stadium modifications, note that the Miami renovations were funded ENTIRELY by the Dolphins owner!

I believe the Dolphins own the stadium down there.

The Jaguars do not.

RattlerGator

Not to mention [1] the stadium is in Miami Gardens. Few of y'all have probably ever stayed, or will stay, in Miami Gardens; nondescript would be kind; [2] need we really mention the market differentials between the Gold Coast and the First Coast?

FSBA

Another year of shiny Shipyards renderings that go nowhere while the Jags keep passive aggressively using London as a threat to get the latest in stadium upgrades at taxpayer expense.
I support meaningless jingoistic cliches

Captain Zissou

Intuition will lose its hard earned parking lot! If they are moving the veterans memorial area, I hope that sea of parking between the stadium and all the other amenities can be better developed.  A big garage plus some mixed use would really be solid for lot J.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: tufsu1 on March 08, 2017, 03:37:18 PM
Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on March 08, 2017, 12:45:05 PM
Quote from: thelakelander on March 08, 2017, 12:43:29 PM
I'd be surprised it COJ secures enough money from FDOT in time to demolish the Hart ramps and finish replacing it with a ground level boulevard by 2019. It's already March 2017.  You'd be struggling to meet that deadline, even if funds were already set aside and construction was imminent.

Go back to the renderings....  One section was bike/ped the other was vehicles, but both were on the elevated portion.  The only difference is that it shrinks from 4 lanes to 2.

incorrect. The part near the stadium is proposed to be torn down.  FDOT has offered to do a $250k study to determine feasibility.  If feasible, its still likely 3-5 years away at best.

Gotcha.  This was the rendering that I was referring to, and you're right.  It's well before the stadium.

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FlaBoy

Quote from: pierre on March 08, 2017, 04:19:57 PM
Quote from: tufsu1 on March 08, 2017, 03:41:09 PM
As for stadium modifications, note that the Miami renovations were funded ENTIRELY by the Dolphins owner!

I believe the Dolphins own the stadium down there.

The Jaguars do not.

This is true. The Dolphins tried to get the state and city to fund it but got denied after the Marlins fiasco.

vicupstate

Quote from: RattlerGator on March 08, 2017, 03:21:33 PM
Which, in a sane world, proves how much the Jaguars *are* doing for our downtown. No one is beating down the door to even compete for development of The Shipyards, etc.

#InShadWeTrustNotVicUpstate

You realize Khan has a tremendous vested interest that the other two parties don't have, right?
"The problem with quotes on the internet is you can never be certain they're authentic." - Abraham Lincoln

edjax

Stephanie Brown has more information on one of the parties. Actually associated with the Killashee plans from before.  She has several tweets about their intents and site plan.

I am sure she will have a story up soon on WOKV news website.