City will seek Proposals for Shipyards + Met Park Combined Development

[JaxAvondale]

Also, the NFL owners meeting is in Phoenix at the end of the month. I suspect we will hear about the prospects of hosting the draft around the 29th.

[thelakelander]

I'd be surprised it COJ secures enough money from FDOT in time to demolish the Hart ramps and finish replacing it with a ground level boulevard by 2019. It's already March 2017.  You'd be struggling to meet that deadline, even if funds were already set aside and construction was imminent.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

I'd be surprised it COJ secures enough money from FDOT in time to demolish the Hart ramps and finish replacing it with a ground level boulevard by 2019. It's already March 2017.  You'd be struggling to meet that deadline, even if funds were already set aside and construction was imminent.

Go back to the renderings....  One section was bike/ped the other was vehicles, but both were on the elevated portion.  The only difference is that it shrinks from 4 lanes to 2.

[FlaBoy]

Honestly, the convention space near the stadium is also something they want for the media and the surrounding events. The 2020 Draft may be more realistic with all the hoops to jump through. The big issue about Jax was hotel rooms and not enough to do for the 2005 Super Bowl. This is putting the infrastructure in place to eventually host another Super Bowl in a decade...after I am guessing another considerable stadium upgrade like what was seen in Miami.

[thelakelander]

I'd be surprised it COJ secures enough money from FDOT in time to demolish the Hart ramps and finish replacing it with a ground level boulevard by 2019. It's already March 2017.  You'd be struggling to meet that deadline, even if funds were already set aside and construction was imminent.

Go back to the renderings....  One section was bike/ped the other was vehicles, but both were on the elevated portion.  The only difference is that it shrinks from 4 lanes to 2.

The rendering is the same one Mayor Curry showed a few months back. Demolishing the ramp between the Hart Bridge and A. Philip Randolph Boulevard. The conversion of the elevated portion around Maxwell House was also in Curry's plan.  They need approval and money from FDOT to make it happen.

[FlaBoy]

I'd be surprised it COJ secures enough money from FDOT in time to demolish the Hart ramps and finish replacing it with a ground level boulevard by 2019. It's already March 2017.  You'd be struggling to meet that deadline, even if funds were already set aside and construction was imminent.

Go back to the renderings....  One section was bike/ped the other was vehicles, but both were on the elevated portion.  The only difference is that it shrinks from 4 lanes to 2.

The rendering is the same one Mayor Curry showed a few months back. Demolishing the ramp between the Hart Bridge and A. Philip Randolph Boulevard. The conversion of the elevated portion around Maxwell House was also in Curry's plan.  They need approval and money from FDOT to make it happen.

Get ready Duval delegation. Lake, do you like keeping the overpasses there or would it be wiser just to knock those down too? I have mixed feelings.

[thelakelander]

I'm mixed.  It's an existing structure, so if you can use it for something different and save money instead of complete demo, why not?  However, the planning is in a vacuum. How does it fit within the overall citywide bicycle network, are there any plans to do anything with the Cathedral District and what role does mass transit (if any) play in this? JTA's been talking about their Skyway plans for over a year now, which include extending it to EverBank Field. They even have AVs over at IAW this afternoon.  However, no of that appears to have been seriously considered in the proposed concept.

Here's Curry's rendering from December:

Click on the link and you can get a much larger image:

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[JaxAvondale]

Bidding for the 2020 NFL Draft makes sense but I think some people associated with the league believe that LA will be awarded the draft in 2020. The Inglewood site is going to be the future home of the NFL Network offices with the stadium opening for the 2019 season.


The NFL may decide to punt the draft until after they host the Super Bowl in 2021 but that could depend on if they are on schedule with construction not just stadium but with the mixed-use projects that will surround the area.

[FlaBoy]

From looking at the renderings, it does seem preferable but not necessary for the Hart Expressway demolition to have occurred before they can build the hotel/meeting space. It seems like there is green space and a large set back in the renderings at least.

[thelakelander]

The viaduct would have to be removed prior to the ped bridge connection or construction of the mixed-use entertainment section. 

[Dapperdan]

Did anyone else watching that meeting get the idea that the Jaguars are starting to subtly suggest they want a new stadium ?

[RattlerGator]

New stadium? Hell no; not one hint at all. What could you possibly be talking about, Dapperdan? What part of the presentation? Who was the speaker?

As for the Hart: There's going to be action on that thing coming down, and it's not going to be years down the road.

Incredibly impressive presentation by the Jaguars. Shad Khan just keeps making tracks, and seriously improving our downtown.

[pierre]

Did anyone else watching that meeting get the idea that the Jaguars are starting to subtly suggest they want a new stadium ?

I would say more likely it would be major renovations similar to what the Dolphins completed prior to this past season.

A roof similar to what they added in Miami. And new seats to all of the non-club areas.

[thelakelander]

New stadium? Hell no; not one hint at all. What could you possibly be talking about, Dapperdan? What part of the presentation? Who was the speaker?

As for the Hart: There's going to be action on that thing coming down, and it's not going to be years down the road.

Incredibly impressive presentation by the Jaguars. Shad Khan just keeps making tracks, and seriously improving our downtown.

Regarding the Hart, let's just say the funding can be found and secured in 12 months (Knowing FDOT, this would be a miracle).  Everything else aside, you'd still be looking at probably two years of construction. So that puts completion, closer to 2020, at the earliest.

[FlaBoy]

Did anyone else watching that meeting get the idea that the Jaguars are starting to subtly suggest they want a new stadium ?

Like I said, they won't want a new stadium but they will want something like what occurred in Miami at Hard Rock Stadium by taking out seats, installing even more premium seats, and installing some sort of roof-like/canopy structure over the stands to enhance the gameday experience (which is probably the #1 excuse for not going to games other than W-L record). The stadiums in the 1990's-Early 2000s have held up very well in comparison to their predecessors. This era from 1995-2003 saw the most stadiums built. It is shocking that FedEx Field is being replaced by the Redskins though. Tampa will be dealing with it around the same time as the Bucs will want something similar.