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Opinion: The Case for Trump

Started by Metro Jacksonville, July 26, 2016, 03:00:03 AM

Jim

This is the difference between the left and the right.

The left cares about what helps the most people regardless of who or what they are. The right cares about what helps only themselves and those like them. They only get outraged when it impacts them personally.

The right has a give-a-damn priority like this:

1. White, Christian, male. That is priority number 1.
2. White, Christian, female.
3. White, unknown, male.
4. White, unknown, female.
5. White, Jewish, male.
6. White, Jewish, female
7. Black, Christian, male.
8. Black, Christian, female.
9. At this point, their level of give-a-damn is too low to quantify. A case could even be made for anything below 6.

The case for Trump is a case of self-righteousness, victimization and lack of care for everybody else that isn't like yourself.

Snufflee

And so it goes

Adam White

Quote from: Jim on February 24, 2017, 11:34:43 AM
This is the difference between the left and the right.

The left cares about what helps the most people regardless of who or what they are. The right cares about what helps only themselves and those like them. They only get outraged when it impacts them personally.

The right has a give-a-damn priority like this:

1. White, Christian, male. That is priority number 1.
2. White, Christian, female.
3. White, unknown, male.
4. White, unknown, female.
5. White, Jewish, male.
6. White, Jewish, female
7. Black, Christian, male.
8. Black, Christian, female.
9. At this point, their level of give-a-damn is too low to quantify. A case could even be made for anything below 6.

The case for Trump is a case of self-righteousness, victimization and lack of care for everybody else that isn't like yourself.

I think "God" is meant to be at the top of that list.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

I-10east

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Quote from: MusicMan on February 23, 2017, 07:21:13 AM
I would dispute every single thing you say in this quote. Every detail, every assumption.  Your just wrong. And that's OK. I assume you are a Trump supporter, or at least a conservative.  And that's ok too. Trump had his people come out and say his inauguration was the most watched in person, ever. That was a blatant lie. Trump has said "global warming is a hoax perpetuated by the Chinese." Another lie.
Trump claimed his electoral college victory was one of the largest ever. Not sure why he says things like this, it just makes him (and his supporters) look stupid.  BUT THESE ARE VERY TYPICAL OF HOW TRUMP OPERATES. When you run a campaign and your Presidency on half truths and horse shit, you wind up knee deep (or deeper) in it. Time will prove this to be true. Just watch.

Trump's tactic is to repeat his lies and half truths until many people start to believe them. And for the most part the "liberal media" regurgitates it. That's a shame but the truth. It's like the myth of the liberal media. This myth was created and perpetuated by right wing conservatives who got sick of news that did not support their line of thinking, or political view. One of my favorite Trump moments in the last few years was the birther movement. He claimed at the time, "I've got people in Hawaii, you won't believe what they are discovering."
Well, they never discovered anything,there was never a follow up press conference where he revealed all the "things" they found . Because it was all a lie. Another sham he pulled over on all the people who wanted to believe it was true, or possible. It's a popular conservative and liberal technique. State something which you want people to believe, over and over again, like "there is a liberal left wing media bias out there", or "the planet is always warming, it's not human activity which is accelerating it", even though no facts actually back it up, but keep on repeating it, because many people who want to believe will accept it as truth. 

So while there is no left wing liberal media bias out there, you can go on believing it. Have a nice day.

LOL, where should I start...So academia, Hollywood, and the mainstream news media isn't heavily liberal? Keep on believing that...I was a Democrat, but I changed my political affiliation to NPA recently because I don't wanna be affiliated with a corrupt establishment party (as is the Republicans) that IMO has way more perniciousness than positivity. I never said that Trump is perfect, but IMO he is a far better option than the other candidate which would have turned the US into a near 3rd World country, like many in Europe are on the verge of being.

I agree with finding alternative energy (which should be the gist) but I'm not sold on some Al Gore ideology (climate change) that IMO isn't accurate, and makes a bunch of liberal bureaucrats more rich; so many of those past predictions were bogus... So even though I'm for clean energy, write me off (like so many liberals do) with no agreeing on anything because I don't agree with the climate change gospel...

The real fascists nowadays are progressives, out here rioting because their candidate lost, destroying businesses and cars, blocking traffic, ambulances, creating Orwellian laws, getting George Soro's money to 'resist' etc etc etc. Despite both parties being corrupt IMO, one side looks like adults (even when they lose), and the other like a bunch of whining babies with temper tantrums. I can go on and on, but I won't.         

I-10east

Quote from: fsquid on February 23, 2017, 09:16:34 AM
Quote from: Adam White on February 23, 2017, 03:47:17 AM
Quote from: I-10east on February 22, 2017, 09:47:21 PM
I can provide video after video of all of the fake news spouted for mainstream media (CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, HLN and others). The leftist news sources are extremely powerful; Although the Fox News Channel can obviously be biased and is large, comparing Fox to the others on the left is like comparing one city to a megalopolis. The liberal media use to tactically hide behind bias, now they dont give a damn. This outspoken and slanted way of 'reporting' spilled over to social media, entertainment like MTV and even sports. There's no secret that the liberal media is faltering in ratings, while alternative media online is surging.

I'd argue that social media is influencing traditional media, not the other way around. I think it has led to a decline in quality and journalistic standards - traditional media outlets are competing against Twitter, et al and the desire not to be beaten to a story ("scooped" as it were) has resulted in a lot of incorrect information being disseminated.

I completely agree.

I agree with Adam too, but IMO the Mark Zuckerberg's of the world have been doing alot of questionable things recently to silence altering voices (I'm not talking about hate speech or anything like that).   

Adam White

Quote from: I-10east on February 25, 2017, 09:58:25 PM
Quote from: fsquid on February 23, 2017, 09:16:34 AM
Quote from: Adam White on February 23, 2017, 03:47:17 AM
Quote from: I-10east on February 22, 2017, 09:47:21 PM
I can provide video after video of all of the fake news spouted for mainstream media (CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, HLN and others). The leftist news sources are extremely powerful; Although the Fox News Channel can obviously be biased and is large, comparing Fox to the others on the left is like comparing one city to a megalopolis. The liberal media use to tactically hide behind bias, now they dont give a damn. This outspoken and slanted way of 'reporting' spilled over to social media, entertainment like MTV and even sports. There's no secret that the liberal media is faltering in ratings, while alternative media online is surging.

I'd argue that social media is influencing traditional media, not the other way around. I think it has led to a decline in quality and journalistic standards - traditional media outlets are competing against Twitter, et al and the desire not to be beaten to a story ("scooped" as it were) has resulted in a lot of incorrect information being disseminated.

I completely agree.

I agree with Adam too, but IMO the Mark Zuckerberg's of the world have been doing alot of questionable things recently to silence altering voices (I'm not talking about hate speech or anything like that).

Zuckerberg - or Facebook - seems to have issues they need to sort out. First there was the concern about how they "curate" the news ticker (or whatever it's called) and then there's the whole "fake news" thing. I realize the evidence was fairly thin regarding the first issue (though it doesn't sound beyond belief) but the second issue is certainly a problem.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

Adam White

Quote from: I-10east on February 25, 2017, 09:51:52 PM
I never said that Trump is perfect, but IMO he is a far better option than the other candidate which would have turned the US into a near 3rd World country, like many in Europe are on the verge of being.

I realise you have your political views and I understand we probably rarely (if ever) find common ground - fair enough. But I'm honestly scratching my head at that one. What criteria are you using to reach the conclusion that many in Europe are on the verge of becoming third world countries.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

I-10east

Rachael Maddow on MSNBC definitely delivered a hard hitting bombshell last night, with Trump's nefarious plan to skip out on taxes and ironclad connection with the Kremlin LOL. Even Van Jones on CNN said Trump got a W. Some are comparing that folly to Geraldo Rivera's 'Al Capone Vault" in '86.

fsquid

I certainly don't see what was breaking news about the thing and then she got scooped when the WH sent the copy to CNN and Fox.


vicupstate

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