Jaguars amphitheater, flex field construction to begin next month

Started by paul_bcb, March 17, 2016, 12:52:52 PM

BridgeTroll

In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

Jax-Nole

Quote from: KenFSU on January 03, 2017, 11:42:25 AM
Per the TU, the Doobie Bros. and Chicago have officially booked Daily's Place for their summer tour, making them the amphitheater's first tenet.

Sorry, St. Augustine.

Isn't it supposed to be open Memorial Day? I have a hard time believing that their first performer won't be until July 1, more than a month after it is completed. This is probably just the first one announced.

edjax

Quote from: Jax-Nole on January 03, 2017, 04:02:45 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 03, 2017, 11:42:25 AM
Per the TU, the Doobie Bros. and Chicago have officially booked Daily's Place for their summer tour, making them the amphitheater's first tenet.

Sorry, St. Augustine.

Isn't it supposed to be open Memorial Day? I have a hard time believing that their first performer won't be until July 1, more than a month after it is completed. This is probably just the first one announced.

Mark Lamping said this is the first announced event, but it will not be first actual concert. (per Stephanie Brown at WOKV)

Tacachale

Quote from: BridgeTroll on January 03, 2017, 03:13:09 PM
Quote from: finehoe on January 03, 2017, 03:03:43 PM
Quote from: InnerCityPressure on January 03, 2017, 01:14:44 PM
Have you ever looked at the St Augustine Amphitheater schedule?  Look at it right now. Foreigner, Kansas, Willie Nelson, Steve Winwood, Steve Miller Band, VANILLA ICE.  This is absolutely a straight steal from St Augustine.  Not sure if that's the gameplan, but that's what happened here.

I'm not disputing that.  Earlier in the thread people were arguing that this new facility would bring in acts that were skipping North Florida altogether because there wasn't an appropriately sized facility for them.  If all it's doing is stealing acts from St. Augustine, it doesn't seem like much of a cultural win to me.

Patience grasshopper... the thing isnt even built yet...lol

I'd agree with Finehoe - the goal shouldn't be just to "steal" acts that would be going to SA Amphitheater already, but to add more to the calendar. Of course it is likely that some acts will be "stolen" if only because the new amphitheater is better located than the one in St. Augustine (among others). But the real win will be if all the venues were going at the current clip and the amphitheater added shows that otherwise would have passed this market. Especially those that don't usually come here.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

KenFSU

Quote from: Jax-Nole on January 03, 2017, 04:02:45 PM
Quote from: KenFSU on January 03, 2017, 11:42:25 AM
Per the TU, the Doobie Bros. and Chicago have officially booked Daily's Place for their summer tour, making them the amphitheater's first tenet.

Sorry, St. Augustine.

Isn't it supposed to be open Memorial Day? I have a hard time believing that their first performer won't be until July 1, more than a month after it is completed. This is probably just the first one announced.

First tenet booked. Not first show scheduled. Unless something has changed, the plan is a multi-day grand opening the week of Memorial Day. Acts TBD.

RattlerGator

Quote from: Tacachale on January 03, 2017, 05:38:19 PM
But the real win will be if all the venues were going at the current clip and the amphitheater added shows that otherwise would have passed this market. Especially those that don't usually come here.

No, that is entirely wrong. The real win clearly is having acts or events in downtown Jacksonville that consistently bring visitors to the sports and entertainment district, period, *and* gives visitors to sporting events a reason to look for other (meaning, non-sports) reasons to come back to downtown Jacksonville.

The extra-added benefit is bringing acts or events to the area that might have skipped us in the past, but that's not the real win and I can't believe it would be put forward as such.

Tacachale

Quote from: RattlerGator on January 03, 2017, 07:52:16 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on January 03, 2017, 05:38:19 PM
But the real win will be if all the venues were going at the current clip and the amphitheater added shows that otherwise would have passed this market. Especially those that don't usually come here.

No, that is entirely wrong. The real win clearly is having acts or events in downtown Jacksonville that consistently bring visitors to the sports and entertainment district, period, *and* gives visitors to sporting events a reason to look for other (meaning, non-sports) reasons to come back to downtown Jacksonville.

The extra-added benefit is bringing acts or events to the area that might have skipped us in the past, but that's not the real win and I can't believe it would be put forward as such.

I don't disagree with that, but we were speaking about the cultural benefit.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

spuwho

Quote from: Tacachale on January 03, 2017, 05:38:19 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on January 03, 2017, 03:13:09 PM
Quote from: finehoe on January 03, 2017, 03:03:43 PM
Quote from: InnerCityPressure on January 03, 2017, 01:14:44 PM
Have you ever looked at the St Augustine Amphitheater schedule?  Look at it right now. Foreigner, Kansas, Willie Nelson, Steve Winwood, Steve Miller Band, VANILLA ICE.  This is absolutely a straight steal from St Augustine.  Not sure if that's the gameplan, but that's what happened here.

I'm not disputing that.  Earlier in the thread people were arguing that this new facility would bring in acts that were skipping North Florida altogether because there wasn't an appropriately sized facility for them.  If all it's doing is stealing acts from St. Augustine, it doesn't seem like much of a cultural win to me.

Patience grasshopper... the thing isnt even built yet...lol

I'd agree with Finehoe - the goal shouldn't be just to "steal" acts that would be going to SA Amphitheater already, but to add more to the calendar. Of course it is likely that some acts will be "stolen" if only because the new amphitheater is better located than the one in St. Augustine (among others). But the real win will be if all the venues were going at the current clip and the amphitheater added shows that otherwise would have passed this market. Especially those that don't usually come here.

Major acts take more time to get a contract signed. Being in Florida, many of them want to come in the winter time not knowing Jacksonville is not Miami. Some can take a year to book due to regional clauses in some contracts. I remember one act always wanted to come in November and have the hotel on the north side. Why? They brought their kids with them in the winter and wanted to be near the Jacksonville Zoo.

I could care less who is or isn't stolen from St Augustine. If there are acts I am interested in, then I will go. Just less driving time to and from. If St Augustine's management is enforcing regional/mileage & timing clauses in the performers contracts, then some acts may take some time before getting into Jacksonville proper when their exclusion periods end.

The bigger news is if Rockville, Freedom Fest or Gospel Fest, Country Fest or any of the local music festivals are going to move into the venue in 2017 or 2018.

Maybe they can host COJ with Mayor Curry yelling, "Mr FDOT, tear that highway down" followed by demolition charges and fireworks as the ramps collapse before a cheering crowd. :) :)

finehoe

BREAKING NEWS! 

Latest design for amphitheater unveiled:


Marle Brando

Surprisingly there are people alive and well now who have fond memories of times when the Doogie Bros and Chicago were in heavy demand and rotation. Obviously it's not meant for u, or someone like me who prefers a different genres. I'm sure once this thing gets rolling, there will be an act performing in Dailys Place that'll peak your interest. ;)

heights unknown

Quote from: Murder_me_Rachel on January 06, 2017, 03:49:29 PM
The Doobie Bros and Chicago? I am FUCKING STOKED....if I lived in 1973.
LOL...as much as I love the Doobies Bro's and Chicago (yes I am old school), we are not living in the 70's; we need of late, and/or up to date gigs, shows, and concerts in this Amphitheater.
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BridgeTroll

I think it is freeking awesome we are even able to discuss what shows are coming and what shows we would like to see.   8)
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

KenFSU

Ah, the ever-reasonable "things that don't appeal to me/my generation" are inherently lame and appeal to no one else mentality.

The tour is good enough for stops in up to 17,000 seat venues in cities like Los Angeles, Vegas, Dallas, Detroit, Boston, Toronto, Nashville, Tampa, Atlanta, but it's tOo oLd FoR JaCkSonViLLe~!

n = 1, friends.

Not exactly a large enough sample size to start making long-range inferences about the types of acts that will perform at Daily's Place.


Keith-N-Jax

Its all good Ken all message boards have Debbie downers and some bring their sister Nancy with them.