Congressional District 4 Debates: LiveBlog!

[TheCat]

Tanzler, blames Rutherford for letting Arabs into Jacksonville. Calling us a "sanctuary city".

[Political MOJO]

They all support mass deportations of illegal immigrants. This really is getting boring with them all repeating the same Republican talking points.

Just saw former Councilman Bill Bishop is here too.

Should we build a wall?

McClure - yep, and it was originally Congress' idea supposedly

Ray - yep

Rutherford - electronic wall? lol "According to Israel, walls work" "the tunnels are amazing"

Tanzler - yep "must be effective to stop the invasion" "first priority" Ellis Island? That closed a long time ago, dude.

[TheCat]

This debate is becoming a long discussion about how bad bad immigrants.

They are discussion Trump's never gonna happen plan to deport 11 million

Tanzler literally just said " we have to close the borders and stop the invasion"

You'll be comforted in knowing Lake Ray voted against sharia law. One has to wonder what really happens in tallahassee.

They all support deporting. Rutherfords, walked around the question, which gives me hope.

On the wall:

McClure: build the wall

Ray: a wall sends a message that the usa is not free to just walk on in. I support it.

Rutherford: we need to secure our borders. it doesn't need to be physical. Israel has walls. it works for them. Tunnels are real. they get under walls.

Tanzler: stop the invasion. build the wall.

Kent is not letting them get away from Trump. The last three questions are about Trump's ambitions.

[JaxAvondale]

Why are they asking these questions?

[Political MOJO]

Do you support banning Muslims from entering the US?

Ray - I don't support anyone coming in the country without vetting them

Rutherford - create "safe zones" for Muslims here? like, ghettos or concentration camps

Tanzler - "strike them there before they get here and we must stop them before they come" but then disagreed that we should stop all Muslims - agreed with Rutherford

McClure - "we're not following the rule of law"  "they're not following our Christianity"  !!!!!! WTF

[TheCat]

So, obviously, this is not for me. If I was the voter they were going after, who would be the most winningest candidates based on this debate. I think it's lake ray. He speaks well, confident.Throws facts around.

Back to terrorrism and immigrants are going to destroy america. The question, should we ban all muslims.

Are safe zones a euphemism for refugee camps? Rutherford recomends safe zones, created by the USA in countries where

Tanzler gives the most decent answer...lets not prevent people coming here following the American dream but background checks.

McClure: they are not following are rules or laws, our Christianity, our laws...

[TheCat]

Rutherford - Black lives matter is a hate group because their rhetoric leads to violence. Does he remember that he's supporting Donald Trump?

Kent asks, is Black Lives Matter a hate group:

Tanzler: I support the death penalty for those that want to kill US. Who is us? Hits at rutherford who is opposed to the death penalty.

McClure: ethical answer...surprise! selective enforcement of crime based on the color skin is wrong.

Ray: All lives matter. Sympathetic. Holds back .

This is jaw dropping .

[TheCat]

On to NRA...who loves guns the most.


Rutherford is attacked by Tanzler for not loving guns based on a particular policy. Rutherford explains the policy. He says, I opposed allowing firing warning shots under "stand your ground...we don't even allow our police to fire warning shots. We certainly don't want our citizens firing warning shots."

We're onto Lake Ray defending a tweet. I missed the topic.

[Political MOJO]

Closing:

Ray: I am an accomplished legislator and most qualified

McClure: I'm a legislator too

Rutherford: I'm the only candidate with a staunch record of conservatism

Tanzler: Running for the right reasons; not a career politician

[TheCat]

closing statements:

Ray:

You will be voting for a member of congress. I have a record as a legislature. Look at my record as a conservative republican. Only candidate endorsed by the NRA.

McClure:

I'm a st. johns commissioner. i have conservative values. we created jobs. we cut unemployment.


Rutherford:

The only person who has conservative leadership experience. I work with law people in federal governments. he ran a $498m business and they carry guns.

Tanzler:

I've never run for office before. my dad told me to be a statesman. family value. national security. fed up with washington. promises to break furniture in DC>

[Political MOJO]

Thanks for joining us! Just wrapped up

[tufsu1]

So, obviously, this is not for me. If I was the voter they were going after, who would be the most winningest candidates based on this debate. I think it's lake ray. He speaks well, confident.Throws facts around.

correct.  He is the only semi-moderate and the only one who actually has decent legislative experience (City Council and State).

[Noone]

I'm voting for Ed Malin.
Thanks MJ for covering this.