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Opinion: The Case for Trump

Started by Metro Jacksonville, July 26, 2016, 03:00:03 AM

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Gonzo

#30
July 27, 2016, 11:32:19 AM
Quote from: Murder_me_Rachel on July 26, 2016, 10:35:19 AM
The whole idea that you run a country like a business is one of the single fucking dumbest things to have developed in politics over the past generation.  Thanks for that, W.

Why, exactly, is this a bad idea?
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Adam White

#31
July 27, 2016, 11:41:07 AM
Quote from: stephendare on July 27, 2016, 11:35:53 AM
Quote from: Gonzo on July 27, 2016, 11:32:19 AM
Quote from: Murder_me_Rachel on July 26, 2016, 10:35:19 AM
The whole idea that you run a country like a business is one of the single fucking dumbest things to have developed in politics over the past generation.  Thanks for that, W.

Why, exactly, is this a bad idea?

Because a business is based around a single thing: making a profit.

The Government is there to do the unprofitable things. Like building and maintaining roads, or a military.

Those things are not profit makers. They are simply necessary expenses.

And W didn't pioneer that idea, actually, the Chicago School of Economics did.

Exactly.
"If you're going to play it out of tune, then play it out of tune properly."

Gonzo

#32
July 27, 2016, 11:53:21 AM
Quote from: Gonzo on July 27, 2016, 11:32:19 AM
Quote from: Murder_me_Rachel on July 26, 2016, 10:35:19 AM
The whole idea that you run a country like a business is one of the single fucking dumbest things to have developed in politics over the past generation.  Thanks for that, W.

Why, exactly, is this a bad idea?

Fair enough, but what if it was run not necessarily to make a profit but to break even or not take a loss? What if government was run to stay within a budget and to only fund projects that fit within that budget? I think that is a good start to a better government... Just my thoughts, though.
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finehoe

#33
July 27, 2016, 12:04:12 PM
Quote from: Gonzo on July 27, 2016, 11:53:21 AM
Quote from: Gonzo on July 27, 2016, 11:32:19 AM
Quote from: Murder_me_Rachel on July 26, 2016, 10:35:19 AM
The whole idea that you run a country like a business is one of the single fucking dumbest things to have developed in politics over the past generation.  Thanks for that, W.

Why, exactly, is this a bad idea?

Fair enough, but what if it was run not necessarily to make a profit but to break even or not take a loss? What if government was run to stay within a budget and to only fund projects that fit within that budget? I think that is a good start to a better government... Just my thoughts, though.

Citizens are citizens, not simple consumers. The role of politics is not just to hold government accountable or even to inform the public. It is also to engage the public. How our leaders relate to citizens affects how the citizens understand their relationship to government and, ultimately, their role in democracy. Political participation should be viewed as rights and responsibilities rather than costs and benefits.

Gonzo

#34
July 27, 2016, 02:34:02 PM
Quote from: stephendare on July 27, 2016, 12:23:37 PM
By the way, here is another idiotic quote from the same idiot with the bathwater remarks:

"An armed people are a free people. If our forefathers were not armed before the American Revolution we would all be speaking English today."
Grover Norquist via Twitter, 02 Jan 2016, 23:12 UTC

The quote had close to a hundred thousand 'likes' by his followers.

Yup, that's an idiotic thing to say.

Thank you for the information on bureaucracy. As always, you are a well of information. While I do not always agree with your stance, I do enjoy reading -- and sometimes learning from -- your posts.

So, how do we get back to said bureaucracy?
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Tacachale

#35
July 27, 2016, 02:53:27 PM
^The "speaking English" tweet is very obviously a joke.
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Non-RedNeck Westsider

#36
July 27, 2016, 02:58:47 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on July 27, 2016, 02:53:27 PM
^The "speaking English" tweet is very obviously a joke.

Did you see a smiley or winkey emoticon or an 'lol'?

Me either.
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Gonzo

#37
July 27, 2016, 03:23:08 PM
Quote from: Tacachale on July 27, 2016, 02:53:27 PM
^The "speaking English" tweet is very obviously a joke.

Of course it is!
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avonjax

#38
July 27, 2016, 09:29:58 PM
Bottom line is there is no case for Trump.

FSBA

#39
July 28, 2016, 12:26:36 AM
Stephen, if I were take the time to write one would you publish an editorial in favor of Gary Johnson?
I support meaningless jingoistic cliches

TheCat

#40
July 28, 2016, 10:05:57 AM
Spuwho, thank you for writing this piece. It's written well and provides perspective. I remain unconvinced but I'd rather have you describe Trump's benefits than have Trump describe Trump.

So, what will it take for you to abandon Trump?

fsquid

#41
July 28, 2016, 03:38:35 PM
Quote from: FSBA on July 28, 2016, 12:26:36 AM
Stephen, if I were take the time to write one would you publish an editorial in favor of Gary Johnson?

I would love to read it.  I'm leaning towards him.  My biggest complaint would be his ultra isolationist views.

ben says

#42
July 29, 2016, 08:57:04 AM
Quote from: TheCat on July 28, 2016, 10:05:57 AM

So, what will it take for you to abandon Trump?

that's my question as well.

easily the least qualified candidate in our history.

an absolute disaster if he is to win.

we NEED to change Spuwho's mind!
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spuwho

#43
July 29, 2016, 11:25:50 AM
Quote from: ben says on July 29, 2016, 08:57:04 AM
Quote from: TheCat on July 28, 2016, 10:05:57 AM

So, what will it take for you to abandon Trump?

that's my question as well.

easily the least qualified candidate in our history.

an absolute disaster if he is to win.

we NEED to change Spuwho's mind!


Re: An Op-Ed for Trump?
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2016, 09:10:23 AM »

I am undecided at this point, but I am more than happy to write one.


MusicMan

#44
September 13, 2016, 06:03:55 PM
Trump on Vladimir Putin at the recent Commander in Chief Discussion:   

"He's been a leader far more than our President has been a leader."

Since many readers seem to support Trump I hope you will read this link.  There's so much evidence out there that Trump just literally "talks out of his ass" in order to give red meat to the Repub base. Here are some startling facts about Trumps leadership mentor, Vladimir Putin.
One can only assume Trump has not actually examined the results of Putin's "leadership."


http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/opinion-these-4-charts-show-why-trump-is-an-idiot-about-putin/ar-AAiP8Sh
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